Which minority is controlling us and what they want - Interview with Ernst Wolff by Elsa Mittmannsgruber - Part 1

05.03.2022 | www.kla.tv/21842

„The other side may dispose of more money, more assets and on top of that of all the weapons in the world. But their power is based neither on their money, nor on their assets nor on their weapons, but simply and solely on one factor - and that is the ignorance of the majority of people.“ Elsa Mittmannsgruber of the Austrian TV channel „Auf1“ opens this interview with a quote from the financial expert Ernst Wolff himself! With the friendly consent of „Auf1.TV, we present here her interview with Ernst Wolff in which, he shares the results of his years of research and observations in the financial sector. He reveals the power structures and complex networks of the financial elite and shows possible steps out of the trap of total dependence - steps that everyone can take! Interview: Elsa Mittmannsgruber: The other side may dispose of more money, more assets and on top of that of all the weapons in the world. But their power is based neither on their money, nor on their assets nor on their weapons, but simply and solely on one factor - and that is the ignorance of the majority of people. This quote is not from me but from Ernst Wolff, also known as „Wolff of Wall Street“. The journalist and author set himself the target to resolutely counter this ignorance and educate people, especially about the machinations of the digital-financial complex. Today I’m talking with Ernst Wolff about this, at „AUFrecht AUF1“. Elsa Mittmannsgruber: Welcome Mr. Wolff. Ernst Wolff: Hello. Thank you very much for the invitation. Elsa Mittmannsgruber: Mr. Wolff, you are of the opinion that the pandemic is part of a greater plan. How do you justify this view? Ernst Wolff: Well, the world is currently in an absolutely exceptional state. We have experienced things that never have happened like this in the history of mankind. - That the whole world economy was shut down, that in 200 countries measures were taken simultaneously against an illness the effects of which were greatly exaggerated. So this has never happened before, and such a thing does not simply pop up by itself. There have to be some powers behind the scenes that worked that out, that possibly prepared that beforehand. And for this we must know which situation we are in currently. In fact, we are right now at the end of three historical cycles. One cycle is the end of the present financial system. Our financial system was created 77 years ago and has run into very serious difficulties in recent years. It almost collapsed the first time in 1998, then almost collapsed in 2007/2008 in the wake of the world financial crisis. The third time it almost collapsed last March, and we reached a turning point last March. Because central banks can only keep the financial system alive by doing two things: one is creating money, and the other is cutting interest rates. And they have reduced interest rates to zero now in March of last year. Since the banking system cannot live with negative interest rates indefinitely, a limit has been reached there. From now on, the only way to keep this system going is to keep printing money senselessly. This is exactly what has been done for 18 months now, but this leads to the devaluation of money, ultimately to hyperinflation and the collapse of the system. So we are currently seeing the final phase of the financial system as we have known it since World War II. But then we are also at the end of a much larger cycle: Capitalism has a history of about 250 years, and this capitalism is also coming to an end because we are in the fourth industrial revolution. Just a brief explanation: The first industrial revolution was the introduction of machines, the beginning of capitalism. The second industrial revolution was the introduction of assembly lines and the scientification of mass production. The third industrial revolution, that was the introduction of computers and the Internet. And the fourth industrial revolution, which we are now in, is the introduction of artificial intelligence on a large scale. This fourth revolution will lead to the elimination of hundreds of millions of jobs. And the problem is that capitalism stands on two feet: capital and human labor. And that human labor is now falling away on a huge scale. As a result, the creation of value by people is also falling away. A great many people will now be made redundant, and since the system is consumption-driven, we will also drop out as consumers. I.e. you have to think about something there, so capitalism, the way it has worked so far, will not continue to work in the future. And then there is a third cycle, which is the cycle of money. Money emerged from the barter economy, then at some point precious metals came in, then paper money was printed, then digital money. But money has always been a measure of human labor throughout the time it has existed. So one commodity is expensive because it involves a lot of work, another is cheap because it involves little work. This principle is now also being broken by the fourth industrial revolution. When we are dealing with self-replicating robots, it will no longer be possible to measure this in the same way as it used to be measured, i.e. money in its previous role will also come to an end at some point. So we are at the end of three historical cycles, and those who are running our system in the background, there are always some forces in the background, there are think tanks, there are NGOs, all the governments have their secret services, then they also have their scientific consultations etc., and all these people, they know of course that we are at this historical threshold, and they have also prepared themselves for it. And there is a book in which the scenario for this whole thing, which we are now experiencing, is clearly explained. The book is by Klaus Schwab and is called "The Great Reset. He writes in it that the world has reached a turning point, that everything has to be restarted. And of course, those who hold the power in their hands want to reboot the world, but in their own favor. That is, we have a very small minority that is directing this in the background, and they rely on several organizations. There are some organizations in the world that are very important right now. Very important is the World Economic Forum in Davos, very important is the International Finance Forum in Beijing, very important is the role of the Communist Party and the cooperation between the Chinese Communist Party and the big digital corporations in the West. I think that there is such a new axis forming, and that this axis is very largely behind what we are seeing. Elsa Mittmannsgruber: So then, the virus serves to give the whole thing the death blow. Ernst Wolff: Actually, the virus has put a turbo into the whole development, and I am not able to say now whether this virus was artificially produced or whether it was there by itself. In any case, this virus has been abused in an unimaginable way. We know today that the disease it causes is not nearly as dangerous. In any case, for the majority of the population, it is not nearly as dangerous that a great many measures have been taken that have not promoted people's health, but have further restricted and worsened it. If it’s these lockdowns, if it’s social distancing, which has driven a great many people to despair and in some cases to suicide, if it’s the wearing of masks by children, if it’s all the economic measures. One must not forget: In the course of these measures, the standard of living of more than one and a half billion people has been lowered. More than 150 million people have been sent into hunger. These are quite fatal, obvious side effects of this action. That's why you can't believe that this has somehow been a health agenda. And we know in the background that the central banks have been working for some time on a new monetary system, and this new monetary system is digital central bank money. This is supposed to be the future of our monetary system. Digital central bank money means that we all have just one account, that the banks are abolished in their previous function, that everyone has just one account with the central bank, and that means that they are subject to total control by the central bank. This money is supposed to be programmable, this is going to be tied to expiration dates, this is going to be possibly earmarked, so this is going to allow the central banks to have total control over the people. The problem is, people will not voluntarily accept such a system, of course. So what can be done? For some time now, the agenda of universal basic income has been propagated everywhere. And my guess is that the world economy will now be brought to collapse, that social chaos will be created with premeditation - on purpose - in order to then at some point come up with this universal basic income, offer it to people practically as a humanitarian act to get out of the crisis, and hope that people will accept it in this way and that it can then be introduced across the board. Elsa Mittmannsgruber: So what you’re saying here is, that the virus has actually helped to destroy the world economy in order to then be able to present the new system itself in the form of digital money or universal basic income. Then you go on to say that the biggest looting operation in the history of mankind is currently taking place. What exactly does that mean exactly? Ernst Wolff: It means the following: In the course of the collapse or near-collapse in March of last year, after all, the largest bailout funds of all time were given out. In the global financial crisis, we were dealing with hundreds of billions; now we are dealing with trillions. And these trillions are not there, they are artificially created by the central banks. And they don't go to you, they don't go to me, they don't go to the working population, they go into the hands of big investors. And you just have to see how these big investors have profited over the last 18 months. I always say that the digital-financial complex is the decisive force in our world. The digital-financial complex includes, at the top, the big five digital corporations. They are Amazon, Alphabet, Apple, Microsoft and Facebook. These five corporations alone now have a stock market value of $10 trillion. That is simply an unimaginable size, more than double what is produced in Germany in goods and provided in services in a year. Another huge beneficiary of all this redistribution are the big asset managers. At the top of the list are BlackRock and Vanguard. BlackRock and Vanguard currently manage about $16 trillion in assets. It is also an unimaginable size, and this sum has of course increased tremendously. And if you want to take a close look at who the very biggest profiteer was last year, it was Facebook. Facebook had a stock market value of $500 billion at the beginning or end of 2019 and has since grown to $1.1 trillion. That's more than doubling what that stock market value expresses. And you also have to go back in history. You have to remember that it took Apple, for example, 42 years to become the first company in the world to reach a stock market value of more than 1 trillion. Meanwhile, as a result of these actions, Apple stands at 2.5 trillion in less than three years. That's a redistribution so unimaginable it's hard to believe! And a large part of this money that has been redistributed is actually newly created money. It’s this way that the politicians are instructing the central banks, "Print money!" That then goes to the big investors, and they feed that into the financial casino, and they themselves are the profiteers from this whole thing. It is a self-amplifying mechanism that is getting worse by the day and has led to the greatest social inequality in the history of mankind. Elsa Mittmannsgruber: But it cannot go on like this. The money-printing machine can't run forever, and somehow they have to profit from this in a different way, by - well, now they... You say that what's happening now is an act of desperation; they must have their backs to the wall. Ernst Wolff: There is no meaningful end. There is no goal in mind now where you say, "This is the condition we want to achieve, and this will be a stable permanent state." One simply tries to maintain the power of those who sit at the levers of power with all possible methods. But one knows, and one sees it now at the moment, what the result of this huge money creation is, namely the devaluation of money. But in the background, those who own the most money in the world are also preparing for this. We are currently seeing a relatively large number of billionaires leaving stocks, leaving bonds and going into real assets. It's no coincidence that people like Bill Gates, for example, who is one of the richest men in the world, that in the last two years he has become the largest owner of farmland in the United States. So these people are preparing themselves very, very concretely for the fact that this system will collapse at some point, and that money will lose its value, and they will then fall back on their material assets in order to be able to swim back on top again. Elsa Mittmannsgruber: It is very interesting, because you said at the beginning that the fact that so many countries and heads of state were involved in the pandemic at the same time and acted synchronously is, in your opinion, an indication of a plan. Many people always tell me that this is precisely the indication that it is not a plan, because they cannot all be wrong. What do you say to this? Ernst Wolff: You have to take a look at the history of the world. In fact, you should take a look at the history of the rich and powerful over the last 50 years. They have networked with each other in an unusual way. One of the most important organizations in the world today is the World Economic Forum in Davos. It is headed by a German professor named Klaus Schwab. He founded a forum for entrepreneurs in 1971. He had studied beforehand at Harvard University as a student of Henry Kissinger, then came back to Europe and, at the age of 33, founded a forum for entrepreneurs in Europe to teach these European entrepreneurs American management methods. And strangely enough, the first time the first meeting came about, 440 top managers from all over the world traveled to Davos. No one can tell me that a 33-year-old with less than five years of professional experience can bring together 440 top managers from all over the world without anyone helping him in the background. And if you look at the role played by Harvard University, you can imagine that the strings have in fact already been pulled there. It's interesting to see how this forum has evolved. In the beginning, it was only managers who came there, then politicians were brought in, then the high nobility was brought in, then media representatives were brought in, and then at some point it was decided that young people who were acting promisingly somewhere, either in large companies or in politics, should be brought together and be prepared for their later role in society. This has been done since 1992. That's when classes were created: The first class was the "Class of 93," the class of 1993, and it's quite interesting if you take a look at who was in that class: You'll find names like Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, Nicolas Sarkozy, Bill Gates, Angela Merkel, Manuel Barroso. In other words, all people who later worked in top positions in politics and business. And the whole thing goes on: The "Class of 93" was only the first class; in the meantime, we have arrived at the Class of 2021. And the concept has also changed a bit. In the beginning, these people who came together were called the "Global Leaders of Tomorrow," then later, I think from 2005 on, they were called the "Young Global Leaders," and the focus was increasingly on younger people, including people like Sebastian Kurz, for example, and Jens Spahn, the German Minister of Health. So you notice a lot of people who play a very important role in politics today. There's also the Prime Minister of New Zealand, who recently announced a three-day lockdown because a single person tested positive. So that's really where you find the elite and the upper crust of politics today and the elite of corporate leaders. Jeff Bezos was in a class like that, too. It's very interesting when you go through all these classes, there are now 1,300 people who are of course also closely networked with each other. So if you've taken several courses in a year - the people aren't interned somewhere for a year, but they meet sometimes for a weekend, sometimes for a whole week, but of course they have their cell phone numbers, they're very well networked. And I know from journalists here in Berlin that Angela Merkel talks to Bill Gates on the phone from time to time - no wonder, if they sat together in class almost 30 years ago, they know each other well. And these are the networks that function in the background, and this network of the World Economic Forum was expanded even further six years ago. A new organization was founded, the "Young Global Shapers", i.e. those who are to shape the global context in the future. So these are young people, mostly from startup companies, who have to be under 30, but who are also partly recruited from politics, and these people are grouped together in so-called "hubs." Hubs are small meeting places that now exist in 440 cities. And believe it or not, this organization now comprises 10,000 people. I can't believe that this is all by chance; the future leaders are clearly being prepared for their role. And what's interesting is that the new classes now, the new class of "Young Global Leaders," no longer run over one year, but over five years. We now have the very special case of the Greens possibly coming to power in Germany. There is even talk of Annalena Baerbock possibly being elected chancellor. Ms. Baerbock is in the class of 2020 and would therefore be the first chancellor in Germany who, during her four-year term as chancellor, is still in the WEF course and could practically receive her instructions from there. So you can see that there really are forces in power in the background that can steer, control and direct worldwide. Elsa Mittmannsgruber: Where are these forces heading? Ernst Wolff: I think they only have a single goal, they only aim at maintaining their own power, because we are living in a difficult time. The time is basically against them, because - as I have already said - these three systems are collapsing, and their power and their wealth is founded on these three systems. That is why they currently are trying - or making the relatively helpless attempt to rescue these systems for the future and to maintain them with all kinds of methods of violence. And the fact that we right now are experiencing such a huge cutback of our rights, this shows me that keeping these three systems alive is only possible with increasingly dictatorial measures. So I can only imagine that all these coercive measures we are subject to, that these will not be relieved in future as some people think. I also can’t imagine that at some point this virus will be officially declared dead or declared „defeated“. But I can well imagine that this narrative of the virus will not prevail in the long run, and that this narrative will be replaced by another one. And they already have a second narrative ready in the background - that is the narrative of the „ultra-dangerous climate change“. And I suspect that, when people don’t believe in the narrative of the virus anymore, that they will quickly switch to this narrative of the „dangerous climate change“. In fact, you see that this climate change has been put forward more and more in the last weeks and months. And that's no coincidence either, if you consider that very many media people are also trained by the World Economic Forum. And by and large, most of these media people depend on these big corporations that by now are the wealthiest corporations of the world, - because these finance the entire media.

from Interview „auf1.TV“

Sources/Links: Interview (auf 1.TV) with Elsa Mittmannsgruber and Ernst Wolff https://www.auf1.tv/aufrecht-auf1/ernst-wolff-im-interview-welche-minderheit-uns-lenkt-und-was-sie-will/