A-WEF: AUF1 และ Kla.TV – “ความร่วมมือคือกุญแจสำคัญ” (สัมภาษณ์กับ Stefan Magnet และ Elsa Mittmannsgruber)

24.12.2024 | www.kla.tv/31541

[1. Stefan Magnet] [Kla.TV:] I have the honor of speaking to Stefan Magnet, the organizer and implementer, the head of the entire event, the head of AUF1. Stefan, how are you now after this glorious day, including yesterday? A lot happened, you were in great demand. There was an incredible amount of organization, you can see that, even if you have never done anything like it before. How are you? Did it meet your expectations? Did you have a conference that you really saw in your mind's eye? [Stefan Magnet:] Yes, I am relieved and overjoyed, and it's funny that you say that when you see it in your mind's eye, you can see the power of thought again. A few months ago, when I realized that I really wanted to do this, I actually visualized how it could go. And that's exactly how it happened. It was the people here. The location is wonderful here. The atmosphere, the energy is really strong, and I am relieved that it went off without a hitch. On the one hand, there were problems that the other side could have caused us. With our conspiratorial and security-conscious approach, we ruled that out and prevented that. But also, of course, we have brought a lot of celebrities together here, and that also means a lot of egos. It was also exciting for me: what effect will it have? Will it be a toxic mix or a harmonious mix? And it can give us hope. It was very harmonious. It was very consensus-oriented, and it showed once again that people are beings interested in cooperation. We have now experienced that. So I am really glad that it worked. [Kla.TV:] How nice. You also said in your opening speech this morning, if I remember correctly, that the people, that is, we together, now decide where the power comes from, it comes from the people. That means we are no longer dependent on Davos or anything else, but in this case the power is coming from Prague and will increasingly be transferred to the people. Do you have the impression that a start has been made here? A first milestone where we can say we are building on it. Are you looking positively towards 2025 in terms of this format? [Stefan Magnet:] Yes, in the various panels it was said, as you say, that the power comes from us and the power comes from the sovereign. And someone else brought up a well-known quote: "The sovereign is whoever decides on the state of emergency," and we have thought very specifically about the state of emergency. We have considered and played through what we will do if a state of emergency threatens again, because we no longer want to be passive victims, but we want to get ahead of the wave. And we want to look ahead to what might come and network and work together. And there have already been initial fruitful results because we have seen: Yes, we have known for five years that Corona existed, but we could cooperate more ourselves. That has shown us mistakes that we will now correct. And in that respect, I think it was really very constructive, on the one hand in terms of what can be offered in terms of the content that we will all broadcast, but also in terms of what we take with us, where we continue to learn, where we will continue to work in the coming months. And I am looking positively towards 2025. On the one hand, it will be a very tough year. Many crises are being prepared for us, from war to economic crash and expropriation, everything is included. Perhaps even a new hygiene dictatorship. We don't know. But what we do know is that we want to develop further, that we want to work together more, and that is why I am positive. With every crisis, the system also loses people who believe in the system, and that was repeated very often today. Once someone has left the system because they wake up, because they realize that lies are at work here, then they are ready to change. And above all, they never go back into the system again, that is the crucial thing. We can then work with these people in the future, and we will do so more with every crisis. It is clear that we are heading towards the eye of the storm, the eye of the hurricane, and there we will see very clearly. [Thomas Eglinski:] Sorry. Vladimir Putin is calling right now. [Stefan Magnet:] Oh yes, exactly. [Kla.TV:] That is of course important. [Stefan Magnet:] He will be there next year too. [Kla.TV:] Not as important as Kla.TV. That was of course great. [Stefan Magnet:] People are already in a good mood. You decide whether you cut it out. So yes, that is just how it is. You can see that people are relaxed now. Thomas was on stage for 14 hours. Of course he is now suffering from hypoglycemia and mustdo something fun. That's all fine, that's how it works here, that's the reality. Yes, I think we're heading for exciting times and I hope there will be a sequel. In any case, we're fully motivated and we want to carry on. It will depend on a few factors, including the supporters, whether it can work, the whole thing is funded by donations. But I think that when people see what we're doing, they'll support us. We've invited so many independent media. Kla.TV, Report 24, PI-News, etc., too, because we're interested in all of us working together. We have our own projects. We have to figure out how to make ends meet in these difficult times. But we have to work together. That doesn't mean that we're all going to get married now. I have enough experience. I have a wife, I have children, I'm happy. But we should definitely join forces on projects. That's crucial. If we see that there is a project where we have to work together, then we have to do it. If there is a state of emergency, then we have to help each other. That is what it is all about. And that is the point. We will not meet every three weeks. But we should manage to do it once a year. [Kla.TV:] Very nice. That was the impression that you got when you walked through here, even during the breaks, all the people who streamed out here. You didn't get the impression that there was any argument about any details, but there was always the impression that people were looking for a common denominator, a common focus on the matter, that we can now get going together. I think that is the energy that is now emanating from it, really great. Thank you very much. We have just asked a question to various speakers. Plans have now been made here on a big stage, in big formats, lawyers, scientists, media. The ordinary viewer, let's say, at home, is sitting there, he is now watching the program. What can he specifically do? I'll say, now in this situation, when there is more censorship and we may no longer be able to enjoy the whole thing online as much as we do today. The topic of crisis prevention is regional networking. Are you a fan of that? Do you say: Dear viewers, yes, network locally and regionally. Make sure they get to know you. [Stefan Magnet:] That's the key. Kevin said that offline is the new organic. We simply have to network offline too. I think it's great what you're doing at Kla.TV with S&G, these distribution circles. People should help themselves. I got that unconsciously many years ago, but I couldn't put my finger on the larger dimension in which it all takes place. I think it's great that you're already implementing pioneering projects here. And we need to network. We need to join forces with appropriate exchange circles. We have to make sure that we get our food from regional suppliers, ideally from friendly farmers, from whom we can also get something in the crisis - even without a hygiene certificate and without a QR code. So these are things where you have to network. Crisis preparedness anyway. So everything that the government still allows us to do today to prepare for the crisis, we should definitely do that. It is very important that we are stocked up when something comes. And we have worked out three things in our media group that each individual can do to prepare and to strengthen our alternative structures. On the one hand, that was refusing wherever possible. That means not playing along where it is not necessary. So refusing all the things that are dictated by the system, especially when there are new coercive measures. Spreading information, education, knowledge, inspiration, but also alternative media. And the third thing was support. Support in many different ways. Whether it's activists who need local support because they're doing something. Whether it's farmers who need occasional support. Whether it's demonstrations or alternative media that sometimes need money because 'nothing happens without money'. So it's quite clear that if you want to implement big things, you also need money. All of these things. There are these three things: refuse, spread the word and support. Anyone can (!) do that. And think for yourself: How can I take on personal responsibility and get involved? What can I do? Can I get more involved in helping out my neighbours? Can I maybe start an association? Can I pass on some knowledge to others? Think about what you can do. Not everyone is so extroverted,that he has to constantly hold his trunk in front of a camera. Not everyone always wants to do something with the media or with resistance or with a demonstration. It's often exhausting. But then there are other options: Think: What can I do? And what to do. Because if you don't do anything, others will. That's the worst thing. [Kla.TV:] We are of course supporting the whole thing and are very expectant and hopeful. And thank you for this final word. And good luck for the rest of the evening, I hope you have a great time. Maybe the tension is a little gone now. I can imagine you've carried a lot. [Stefan Magnet:] Now I'll just say something very briefly. Thank you for being here. I'm very happy that you've answered the call to take part and report here. That's just really important. So cooperation is really the key and I'm really happy about that. Keep going and support the viewers, including Kla.TV. Because that's the only way it can work. Thank you. [Kla.TV:] Very nice, thank you, Stefan. [2. Elsa Mittmannsgruber] [Kla.TV:] I'm joined by Elsa Mittmannsgruber from AUF1. As I heard, she was an initiator or the person who came up with the idea for this year's conference here at the Alternative WEF. Ms. Mittmannsgruber, how do you feel about the conference so far, day 2? How are you? Are you satisfied? [Elsa Mittmannsgruber:] Yes, I'm completely thrilled. There's a real spirit of optimism here in the rooms. Really exciting, controversial topics were brought to the table. People really expressed themselves openly and tried to find solutions. And I'm optimistic that we can build on that, that something really big can still develop here. [Kla.TV:] Yes, very nice. So it gives hope. You can see the energy, it's positive, you can feel it. Do you think it is possible to overcome this division, so that all media, scientists and lawyers can work together towards the same future without having to see everything the same way? But let's focus on this one point, as was said earlier? [Elsa Mittmannsgruber:] I think it is always difficult for everyone to work together towards something. But there is always one side or one side that has more weight and that simply sets the tone and steers in the right direction. For a long time it was the globalist side, and I am optimistic that it is now the other side that is working against this and can really make a difference and also get a lot of people on board. [Kla.TV:] Time for a change, in any case. That's clear. We have one last question, which we have asked everyone. And that is: What do you think of internet-independent networking - that is, regionally on a local level? Whether AUF1 viewers or Kla.TV viewers, no matter what, the people on the ground don't just rely on the media on the internet, but also network regionally in times of censorship. Is that an important point that is close to your heart? [Elsa Mittmannsgruber:] It is an enormously important point. But the problem is that it is simply prevented. So it is hard to imagine that we are holding a meeting or a congress or a large event in Germany or Austria. As soon as the venue is announced, we will face reprisals and the venue will be canceled because the organizers are simply too afraid and are under too much pressure. Unfortunately, that is the real problem. If we now switch to other countries, as we have done now, then it is possible and of course extremely important that we see each other in real life, network in real life, talk to each other. There is a completely different chemistry, a different atmosphere when you actually see each other. I also met many people today who I had previously only interviewed via Zoom, and who I was able to shake hands with in person for the first time. It was a wonderful feeling and it also gives you a lot more strength. There is also a lot more power, a lot more driving force when you simply feel the energy when everyone is there. But yes, as I said, unfortunately that is a bit problematic, but of course we are doing what we can to change that. [Kla.TV:] You can see that, it is also huge and big. But now the viewers on site, that they are networking, that makes sense locally, regionally, independently of us. [Elsa Mittmannsgruber:] Absolutely, yes of course. Of course, that is very important and away from the digital, because you press a button and you're gone. Yes, exactly, that's really the case anyway - the resistance is growing. When you create small regional groups, everything starts small, they can then network with each other, everything gets bigger and bigger and then you really see how many people there actually are, how much we arend. [Kla.TV:] Thank you very much for the interview. I know you are in great demand here, as you are also on the move everywhere. Thank you for your time and all the best and much success with the conference. [Elsa Mittmannsgruber:] Thank you.

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