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Organised crime: COVID-19 and ANTHRAX-01 – Interview with Heiko Schöning
In his new book "GAME OVER", doctor and reserve officer Heiko Schöning proves the criminal machinations surrounding COVID-19. As if in a blueprint, eighteen years earlier the perpetrators of today carried out a similar crime with deadly anthrax bacteria. Criminalistic details and powers of deduction led him to the conclusion: the same institutes and clans are still involved in this evil game. Even ex-President Trump plays a role in it ... In his exclusive interview with Kla.TV, Schöning gives the first deeper insights into his explosive revelations.
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"It is indeed the case that we now have the best chance in over a hundred years to overcome this system, this criminal system in which we live.
The real difference to earlier years and decades, when there were already war lies about millions of people who had already been killed, is that now here in the West the attention is there. Because too many people, including myself, have looked away too much from this organised crime over the decades. Millions of dead in Vietnam, in Iraq. Did we really care? Have we done enough? And now it's our turn. And that is the main message.
We must now, as responsible fathers, civil servants, officers, doctors - everyone, we must now come together and say: No to the mafia! Because at some point it will be our own turn and we are realising that now, economically and also physically. We are not only being patronised, but our lives are in danger and also those of our families."
Heiko Schöning, founder of the Corona Commission of Inquiry and Vice President of the World Freedom Alliance has a new book out. The title is "Game Over". In detail and yet clearly, he proves on about 500 pages that COVID-19 was a planned crime. As if in a blueprint, eighteen years earlier the perpetrators of today carried out a similar crime with deadly anthrax bacteria (ANTRAX-01). Kla.TV reported on the anthrax attack in the inset programme (see: www.kla.tv/16561).
In 2001, too, panic was stirred up, emergency laws were waved through and mass vaccinations were carried out.
The unusual suicide of the official lone perpetrator Dr Bruce Ivins and his connection to the anthrax vaccine manufacturer Emergent BioSolutions caught the attention of the doctor Schöning. They prompted him to conduct years of undercover research. The knowledge he gained from this enabled him to publicly predict a renewed pathogen panic for 2020 in September 2019 - months before COVID-19. Criminalistic details and powers of deduction led him to the conclusion: Emergent BioSolutions and their backers are planning much bigger things. But organised crime is playing high poker and will lose the game when the criminals come to light - "Game Over"! In his exclusive interview with Kla.TV, Schöning gives first deeper insights into his explosive revelations. Help bring the criminals in the background to the light of day by spreading the word about this red-hot interview!
Interviewer:
Mr Schöning, good afternoon!
I am pleased that we can do this interview together today. Today it will be about your new book, which is called "Game Over". A book that names the perpetrators and the deeds, that's how you described it and you said in advance that you would provide insights so that people can get an idea of what it is about.
But first we want to get to know Heiko Schöning as a person. You are not only an author but also a doctor and therefore on the winning side of the current system. So as far as reputation and financial advantages are concerned, you actually have the good cards in your hand.
What drives a person like you to say "Game Over" for yourself and then perhaps there is also a key experience that has led you to follow this path, which is not exactly easy either?
Heiko Schöning:
Yes, thank you very much! Well, it's September 2021 now and my basic motivation is not only the profession of a doctor, but it's also that I'm a father, so I have responsibility for my children, and on top of that I'm also a reserve officer in the German Armed Forces and have also taken an oath at some point to protect people. And we simply have to see that what we have here is a worldwide organised crime.
Interviewer:
And coming back to this key event, is it something that specifically concerned you as well, where you said something can't be right?
Heiko Schöning:
Yes exactly, maybe just to tell it. How did I come to this? I myself worked on three continents during my training. I studied at the Charité in Berlin, and also in Australia and England. I have treated paracetamol suicides on three continents, i.e. people who have deliberately taken an overdose of the painkiller paracetamol. And in 2008 there was an alleged suicide of an assassin who killed himself with paracetamol and that was the assassin of September 2001 with the bioweapon anthrax.
And briefly, I followed this case. I thought, wait a minute, some microbiologist kills himself with paracetamol. That's like a Formula 1 driver like Sebastian Vettel taking a bicycle and riding it into a tree with the intention of dying. And that's when I looked in and saw, this suicide was actually not a suicide and that's how I got from one to the other.
Interviewer:
Yes, so that's something where you said, that can't be somehow, that's somehow not plausible, paracetamol is now not a particularly potent drug to kill yourself. With the bicycle, that's easy to understand, and then you were apparently employed and in the course of your speaking career it was also the case that you were often prevented from speaking. I have learned that in September 2020 you were interrupted and arrested in Hyde Park in London at the famous Speakers Corner when you wanted to give a speech.
This is a place, we learned this in English class, where for 900 years even the biggest dissidents and critics of the government have been able to say whatever they want without being prevented from doing so. Is that a sign of a hypernervous society and government?
Heiko Schöning:
It is a sign of a worldwide crime and yes you are right, this 900 year old good tradition of free speech in the UK, in London at Speakers Corner actually came to an end on 26 September 2020 when I was arrested there, taken away in handcuffs because I spoke to Covid-19 so to Corona on a bench, quite peacefully in front of people. And these pictures went around the world. And what I said there was also important information, proof that we don't have a killer virus here. It is more like a normal seasonal flu and all the measures that are being taken, there is actually a worldwide organised crime behind it.
That's what I said there and I was arrested there, absolutely illegally.
This has gone around the world, but of course the contents are much more important and as I have just said, I myself once solved a suicide, this anthrax murderer from 2001 who allegedly killed himself with paracetamol and was then labelled a lone perpetrator and I have gathered the evidence to say: This man did not commit suicide and he is not the lone perpetrator. He was an employee of Emergent BioSolutions, an American vaccine company that had a monopoly on the anthrax vaccine 20 years earlier.
Heiko Schöning:
These attacks that killed people caused such a panic as Corona, Corona, Corona today, at that time it was anthrax, anthrax, anthrax. And what is the connection now? The connection is that today most vaccines are also produced again by this - as I can prove - criminal company Emergent BioSolutions. So, we know the brands AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson, Janssen, Novavax and others. And for all of them it is produced by this company Emergent BioSolutions from the USA. And the employee Dr. Bruce Ivins was a direct employee of Emergent BioSolutions from 2000 to 2002, at the time of the crime. And this company has made billions of dollars with it and again today with Covid-19.
That's just once very briefly. And these are the things I tried to say in London. I was previously invited to speak in front of tens of thousands of people in Trafalgar Square in London. That was stopped by the police in the middle of this peaceful demonstration when I had the microphone and a few hours later - as you also said - in Speakers Corner; even there I was arrested again.
Interviewer:
Yes, and that is also something that perhaps motivated you to continue working on your book. We want to talk about that today. We come to the book "Game Over". In your interview with "Auf1" you said that you have been prevented from speaking several times at demonstrations in all kinds of places, not only in Speakers Corner. Now 500 pages - almost 500 pages - have been written in this book. And then I read here that it is volume one. So from your point of view there are still a lot of things that need to be said, even if one doesn't want to hear them. Why don't you tell us about them?
Heiko Schöning:
Yes, I can only really say with all seriousness: What we are experiencing here - Corona - is a fraud trick, is an illusion. And we have the whole thing worldwide. It is absolutely serious. And many people have already died because of the measures. With the lockdown measures, people are dying in India and also in Africa because they are starving. We see the repressive measures here as well, of course, especially of the economy. And that is, so to speak, the main goal, that is, so to speak, the medium-sized economy, which is being destroyed here with a deliberately initiated economic crash. And what is the cover story?
It's a virus, and I warned about this very thing back in September 2019, in a long interview that aired in September 2019, and I was able to predict then that criminals were planning a major pathogen scare for 2020. And that was four months before the Corona outbreak.
Interviewer:
That's interesting, so that means you were able to predict something that actually happened? What circumstantial evidence did you have that you could say that?
Heiko Schöning:
Yes, so this interview from September 2019, which was then broadcast, is also included in the book. The book also has two DVDs, which means the original video is also really in there. And at the time I was investigating the anthrax attacks of September 2001 and was able to say that some of the same perpetrators were planning a major pathogen panic for 2020 and that it was again connected to the company Ermergent BioSolutions.
Because they also said, for example, that they would double their turnover in two years. And yes, they have more than exceeded that.
Interviewer:
Yeah, and now maybe a lot of people are wondering, "Yeah, how can you call this an international organised crime?" Many people are now looking at viruses, at spike proteins, at all kinds of things, and it's like this, where there's also great confusion, where you think, "For God's sake, we're all going to die!", some think. And others think: "This can't be right somehow, they're crazy". And in many places - which you also read in the media - it is claimed that everything is already correct. That means you have to somehow explain conclusively why you think that it is a crime and not a worldwide pandemic, as they say.
Heiko Schöning:
Yes, exactly. And that is exactly what has been done now. We set up an extra-parliamentary Corona Inquiry Committee when Corona broke out, and this book "Game Over" presents the final report, so to speak, with two DVDs, which also contain the medical facts, where you can listen to expert hearings with internationally renowned professors and doctors, i.e. the whole story of how it happened is included.
That's what you can hear from the experts. But it is much more important to understand that we are dealing with criminals. Criminals who can be clearly proven to have committed crimes 20 years ago. That's what the book does and the transfer is that you say: If we already know that this is quasi Al Capone from Chicago or Dr. Josef Mengele with very terrible crimes during the Second World War, you wouldn't trust these people again. And it is exactly the same perpetrators who are active again today around Covid-19.
And all the connections between the people in this criminal organisation are described in the book. And the good thing is, not only as text, but also in over a hundred info-graphics, so that you can also understand visually how the whole thing is connected.
Interviewer:
Yes, now we also have this card game on the table. That's another approach that I found special. Perhaps you could say something more about it.
Heiko Schöning:
Yes, it is made very confusing, of course. When there is a crime, people always try to camouflage and deceive. It's similar in the military, camouflage and deceive. That's why it's relatively complicated. In order to represent something, one should then put it in an order that is already known. And a pack of cards here with 52 hands, that is known. You can play skat, poker and many other games with it. And here the 52 main figures, especially the perpetrators, are depicted, and you understand the order. You have hearts, spades, clubs, diamonds, you understand the order, just as you have an ace or the seven or the queen and the king.
And I also put these individual Mafiosi in this order so that you can understand which different clans are at work here. And in fact - if you look at it - we have also included this in German and English in addition to the book, so that you can get a picture of these people. Because when you hear a name, it is much better to remember it if you have a face to go with it. And that's what this whole thing can do.
In this book, too, these criminals are always drawn in addition. That is what is important and what is new. This book not only dares to call the perpetrators by name, but also shows the faces and also the criminal connections.
Interviewer:
If we are now dealing with a mafia, as you say, aren't you taking quite a big risk?
Heiko Schöning:
Yes, I was already asked that in September 2019, because the draft of this book here, "Game Over", was already on the table two years ago, and I was already able to hold some evidence up to the camera there and also mentioned the connections. Many people who saw it were shocked. This video was then also censored, it was deleted from YouTube and many other things as well. And as you said at the beginning, I have often been prevented from speaking, not only in London, but also in Berlin, on 1 August 2020, there were over a million people on the streets, six hours of peaceful demonstration, and then we doctors were supposed to speak on stage. And then the police stormed the stage. 1 August 2020 in Berlin. And yes, unfortunately, many other things too, that we see: Censorship rules here.
Interviewer:
Good, this book is available now, I understand, or is that still in the planning stage?
Heiko Schöning:
No, the book is finished now. A lot more things have gone into it. Instead of publishing it straight away, in which case it would have mainly referred to anthrax from 2001, I decided to say that the new crimes, which are much more important now, which are much bigger, like Covid-19, have to be included in order to show that it is the same criminals who planned it. And criminal foreknowledge is the key to proving that Covid-19 is a scam.
And this book just proves to some of the main perpetrators that they had criminal foreknowledge of Covid-19. It was not a surprise, it was all planned. And we also see that the whole thing is orchestrated, worldwide!
Interviewer:
We are talking about worldwide. So, as an observer, you ask yourself, for example, Australia had one of the most rigid anti-covid strategies: 'Zero Covid' - extremely fast, extremely hard into the lockdowns and you ask yourself: Why Australia?
Heiko Schöning:
Yes, we have to understand, well, I said, in the card game, different mafia clans are summarised, so to speak. And there is a mafia clan that is now new, which I called the techno mafia. And we have to see that the corporations behind it have a lot of knowledge about people's behaviour from advertising strategies and other things. And you have to think of Covid-19 almost like a product. And it's being rolled out like a product rollout. You don't do that everywhere and suddenly with 100% of the same, but first you do test markets.
And unfortunately, Australia and New Zealand are Western test markets for these criminals to see how far they can go with these measures, with this lockdown, with repressive measures. And now the military is also being used against the people to enforce the coercive measures. And that is exactly what we are seeing in Europe and in the USA.
Interviewer:
Yes, that would have been my next question. That is, you say that if things continue like this, there will be scenes like the one we are seeing in Australia now.
Heiko Schöning:
Absolutely. And we have seen that before and that is evident. And that is what I also said at the beginning of 2020. And now also in Berlin at this big demonstration of millions on 29 August 2020, where I was actually able to speak in front of over 1 million people this time. In this speech in Berlin I said:
Australia is currently demonstrating the lockdown stage and how the whole thing works. And that exactly these measures will also come to Europe. And these measures have actually arrived. As I have clearly said in interviews before, what we are threatened with is medical martial law. And that is exactly what we are experiencing here.
Interviewer:
Well, the question is: What can be done now? That is a question that many people are concerned about. There were and are people who, based on discussions on the internet, placed very high hopes on the USA, on President Trump, and essentially nothing has come from there. And so one can say that ultimately, waiting can no longer be the order of the day. So, what is your advice to people and how can they support you, for example?
Heiko Schöning:
Yes, for one thing I have to say that anyone who had actually placed hope in President Trump has been misled. Because it is a set-up. Mr Trump also belongs to the criminals, to a smaller mafia clan. The old Reagan mafia is behind it, the 'Reaganites'. And they are in competition with a big mafia clan, called the 'establishment', which you can look up in detail, so to speak.
But also in this book it is clearly stated that Donald Trump is in contact with one of the main criminals, and his name is Edwin Meese, that this person got a medal in October 2019 in the Oval Office still from Donald Trump. And that is one of the main criminals. In short, Donald Trump is also one of them. And we must also actually see that we humans are being driven apart into two camps: vaccinated - unvaccinated. And the USA also now has a great risk of no longer being the United States, but of becoming the Unified States. So it is very, very important that we stay peaceful, that we stay in dialogue and also come, overcome the censorship and not let ourselves be driven apart.
Because that is precisely the calculation. Because: "When two quarrel, the third is happy".
As Ronald Reagan's right-hand man, Edwin Meese also supplied two sides with weapons: Iran-Contraaffaire, for example, is one of his great crimes. And Iran and Iraq (both sides) were supplied with weapons for eight years, slaughtered and in the end, now American companies have finally taken over the weakened Iraq. And Iran is facing something similar. All I can say is that it's a set-up. And this book also shows the larger structures, the historical structures, how it came about. That's why it's so important to understand what's at the beginning now.
That's why the book is structured this way; to go from topical and simplified, to timeless and in-depth. So it's really worth having the courage to read this book. There are many original illustrations there, many sources and you can also independently check it out.
Interviewer:
Yes, that is also totally important. There will certainly be one or the other who will go looking for it. But you said it's an orchestrated game, it's international. That's why we are perhaps also going to the international level. It certainly makes sense not to keep reinventing the wheel, but to bundle existing initiatives and associations and learn and benefit from each other. You are a member and Vice-President of the "World Doctors Alliance", then of the ACU 2020 and the" World Freedom Alliance". These are all organisations that you support or have founded. Tell us about the importance of these international networks.
Heiko Schöning:
Yes, one thing is the findings. I actually say we have to do five things. The first thing is that we have to show that they are criminals - and this book shows that they are criminals and that it is also organised crime - and now the question is: What do we do - how do we get involved in actions? And it is important that we come together; we, together and that we also take action against it.
And in this respect, I had already proclaimed the "Extra-Parliamentary Corona Investigation Committee" in May 2020 and in June we already had the first kick-off meeting with the first hearings. This is also included in the DVDs here, so the evidence is also shown here, so that you can see that. And in a short time we have also gathered more than 1,000 doctors in Germany who have openly displayed their names on the website to say:
"The measures that are being taken here are absolutely excessive!" And in fact even more - and we also say this with the "World Freedom Alliance", i.e. the umbrella organisation of the worldwide freedom movements that have been founded, that we are dealing here with an orchestrated, worldwide crime, and we even go beyond that, that we also offer a better alternative. Because not only to present the problems, but at the same time to present the solution. And there I had the honour, as you rightly said, to also become the vice president of this worldwide medical association there and also of this federation of the freedom movement "The World Freedom Alliance.org".
Interviewer:
Yes, Mr Schöning - thank you very much for letting us discuss your book today!
I wish you much success with it, that as many people as possible read it, that it is something that brings people forward, that it brings them together. I can only agree with that. We will only solve this together, the problem - or not at all.
This is an opportunity of the century. You also said that in the preliminary discussion, that is something that gives hope, that we also want to pass on to the people.
Is there anything (else) you would like to say to the audience in conclusion?
Heiko Schöning:
Yes, absolutely! Because you are absolutely right. It is indeed the case that we now have the best chance in over a hundred years to overcome this system, this criminal system in which we live, and not just to accept this criminal, oligarchic 'new normal'; the 'new normal', but to actually create a better normal; a 'better normal'. And that's what the World Freedom Alliance stands for, and that's also what the economic programme "Wirkraft" - "wirkraft.org" stands for. So we really have the best chance now and ... The real difference to earlier years and decades, when there were already war lies about millions of people who had already been killed, is that here in the West attention is now being paid. Because too many people, including myself, have looked away too much from this organised crime over the decades. Millions of dead in Vietnam, in Iraq. Did we really care? Have we done enough? And now it's our turn. And that is the main message.
We must now as responsible fathers, civil servants, officers, doctors - everyone. We must come together now and say: No to the mafia!
Because at some point it will be our own turn and we are now realising that: economically and also physically. We are not only being patronised, but our lives are in danger and also those of our families. Therefore, stand together now and simply carry the evidence, and it is summarised there; the final report of the Corona Committee of Inquiry, so to speak - carry it on! Thank you very much.
Interviewer:
Yes, thank you very much. Kla.tv thanks you for this day!
Goodbye.
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"It is indeed the case that we now have the best chance in over a hundred years to overcome this system, this criminal system in which we live. The real difference to earlier years and decades, when there were already war lies about millions of people who had already been killed, is that now here in the West the attention is there. Because too many people, including myself, have looked away too much from this organised crime over the decades. Millions of dead in Vietnam, in Iraq. Did we really care? Have we done enough? And now it's our turn. And that is the main message. We must now, as responsible fathers, civil servants, officers, doctors - everyone, we must now come together and say: No to the mafia! Because at some point it will be our own turn and we are realising that now, economically and also physically. We are not only being patronised, but our lives are in danger and also those of our families." Heiko Schöning, founder of the Corona Commission of Inquiry and Vice President of the World Freedom Alliance has a new book out. The title is "Game Over". In detail and yet clearly, he proves on about 500 pages that COVID-19 was a planned crime. As if in a blueprint, eighteen years earlier the perpetrators of today carried out a similar crime with deadly anthrax bacteria (ANTRAX-01). Kla.TV reported on the anthrax attack in the inset programme (see: www.kla.tv/16561). In 2001, too, panic was stirred up, emergency laws were waved through and mass vaccinations were carried out. The unusual suicide of the official lone perpetrator Dr Bruce Ivins and his connection to the anthrax vaccine manufacturer Emergent BioSolutions caught the attention of the doctor Schöning. They prompted him to conduct years of undercover research. The knowledge he gained from this enabled him to publicly predict a renewed pathogen panic for 2020 in September 2019 - months before COVID-19. Criminalistic details and powers of deduction led him to the conclusion: Emergent BioSolutions and their backers are planning much bigger things. But organised crime is playing high poker and will lose the game when the criminals come to light - "Game Over"! In his exclusive interview with Kla.TV, Schöning gives first deeper insights into his explosive revelations. Help bring the criminals in the background to the light of day by spreading the word about this red-hot interview! Interviewer: Mr Schöning, good afternoon! I am pleased that we can do this interview together today. Today it will be about your new book, which is called "Game Over". A book that names the perpetrators and the deeds, that's how you described it and you said in advance that you would provide insights so that people can get an idea of what it is about. But first we want to get to know Heiko Schöning as a person. You are not only an author but also a doctor and therefore on the winning side of the current system. So as far as reputation and financial advantages are concerned, you actually have the good cards in your hand. What drives a person like you to say "Game Over" for yourself and then perhaps there is also a key experience that has led you to follow this path, which is not exactly easy either? Heiko Schöning: Yes, thank you very much! Well, it's September 2021 now and my basic motivation is not only the profession of a doctor, but it's also that I'm a father, so I have responsibility for my children, and on top of that I'm also a reserve officer in the German Armed Forces and have also taken an oath at some point to protect people. And we simply have to see that what we have here is a worldwide organised crime. Interviewer: And coming back to this key event, is it something that specifically concerned you as well, where you said something can't be right? Heiko Schöning: Yes exactly, maybe just to tell it. How did I come to this? I myself worked on three continents during my training. I studied at the Charité in Berlin, and also in Australia and England. I have treated paracetamol suicides on three continents, i.e. people who have deliberately taken an overdose of the painkiller paracetamol. And in 2008 there was an alleged suicide of an assassin who killed himself with paracetamol and that was the assassin of September 2001 with the bioweapon anthrax. And briefly, I followed this case. I thought, wait a minute, some microbiologist kills himself with paracetamol. That's like a Formula 1 driver like Sebastian Vettel taking a bicycle and riding it into a tree with the intention of dying. And that's when I looked in and saw, this suicide was actually not a suicide and that's how I got from one to the other. Interviewer: Yes, so that's something where you said, that can't be somehow, that's somehow not plausible, paracetamol is now not a particularly potent drug to kill yourself. With the bicycle, that's easy to understand, and then you were apparently employed and in the course of your speaking career it was also the case that you were often prevented from speaking. I have learned that in September 2020 you were interrupted and arrested in Hyde Park in London at the famous Speakers Corner when you wanted to give a speech. This is a place, we learned this in English class, where for 900 years even the biggest dissidents and critics of the government have been able to say whatever they want without being prevented from doing so. Is that a sign of a hypernervous society and government? Heiko Schöning: It is a sign of a worldwide crime and yes you are right, this 900 year old good tradition of free speech in the UK, in London at Speakers Corner actually came to an end on 26 September 2020 when I was arrested there, taken away in handcuffs because I spoke to Covid-19 so to Corona on a bench, quite peacefully in front of people. And these pictures went around the world. And what I said there was also important information, proof that we don't have a killer virus here. It is more like a normal seasonal flu and all the measures that are being taken, there is actually a worldwide organised crime behind it. That's what I said there and I was arrested there, absolutely illegally. This has gone around the world, but of course the contents are much more important and as I have just said, I myself once solved a suicide, this anthrax murderer from 2001 who allegedly killed himself with paracetamol and was then labelled a lone perpetrator and I have gathered the evidence to say: This man did not commit suicide and he is not the lone perpetrator. He was an employee of Emergent BioSolutions, an American vaccine company that had a monopoly on the anthrax vaccine 20 years earlier. Heiko Schöning: These attacks that killed people caused such a panic as Corona, Corona, Corona today, at that time it was anthrax, anthrax, anthrax. And what is the connection now? The connection is that today most vaccines are also produced again by this - as I can prove - criminal company Emergent BioSolutions. So, we know the brands AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson, Janssen, Novavax and others. And for all of them it is produced by this company Emergent BioSolutions from the USA. And the employee Dr. Bruce Ivins was a direct employee of Emergent BioSolutions from 2000 to 2002, at the time of the crime. And this company has made billions of dollars with it and again today with Covid-19. That's just once very briefly. And these are the things I tried to say in London. I was previously invited to speak in front of tens of thousands of people in Trafalgar Square in London. That was stopped by the police in the middle of this peaceful demonstration when I had the microphone and a few hours later - as you also said - in Speakers Corner; even there I was arrested again. Interviewer: Yes, and that is also something that perhaps motivated you to continue working on your book. We want to talk about that today. We come to the book "Game Over". In your interview with "Auf1" you said that you have been prevented from speaking several times at demonstrations in all kinds of places, not only in Speakers Corner. Now 500 pages - almost 500 pages - have been written in this book. And then I read here that it is volume one. So from your point of view there are still a lot of things that need to be said, even if one doesn't want to hear them. Why don't you tell us about them? Heiko Schöning: Yes, I can only really say with all seriousness: What we are experiencing here - Corona - is a fraud trick, is an illusion. And we have the whole thing worldwide. It is absolutely serious. And many people have already died because of the measures. With the lockdown measures, people are dying in India and also in Africa because they are starving. We see the repressive measures here as well, of course, especially of the economy. And that is, so to speak, the main goal, that is, so to speak, the medium-sized economy, which is being destroyed here with a deliberately initiated economic crash. And what is the cover story? It's a virus, and I warned about this very thing back in September 2019, in a long interview that aired in September 2019, and I was able to predict then that criminals were planning a major pathogen scare for 2020. And that was four months before the Corona outbreak. Interviewer: That's interesting, so that means you were able to predict something that actually happened? What circumstantial evidence did you have that you could say that? Heiko Schöning: Yes, so this interview from September 2019, which was then broadcast, is also included in the book. The book also has two DVDs, which means the original video is also really in there. And at the time I was investigating the anthrax attacks of September 2001 and was able to say that some of the same perpetrators were planning a major pathogen panic for 2020 and that it was again connected to the company Ermergent BioSolutions. Because they also said, for example, that they would double their turnover in two years. And yes, they have more than exceeded that. Interviewer: Yeah, and now maybe a lot of people are wondering, "Yeah, how can you call this an international organised crime?" Many people are now looking at viruses, at spike proteins, at all kinds of things, and it's like this, where there's also great confusion, where you think, "For God's sake, we're all going to die!", some think. And others think: "This can't be right somehow, they're crazy". And in many places - which you also read in the media - it is claimed that everything is already correct. That means you have to somehow explain conclusively why you think that it is a crime and not a worldwide pandemic, as they say. Heiko Schöning: Yes, exactly. And that is exactly what has been done now. We set up an extra-parliamentary Corona Inquiry Committee when Corona broke out, and this book "Game Over" presents the final report, so to speak, with two DVDs, which also contain the medical facts, where you can listen to expert hearings with internationally renowned professors and doctors, i.e. the whole story of how it happened is included. That's what you can hear from the experts. But it is much more important to understand that we are dealing with criminals. Criminals who can be clearly proven to have committed crimes 20 years ago. That's what the book does and the transfer is that you say: If we already know that this is quasi Al Capone from Chicago or Dr. Josef Mengele with very terrible crimes during the Second World War, you wouldn't trust these people again. And it is exactly the same perpetrators who are active again today around Covid-19. And all the connections between the people in this criminal organisation are described in the book. And the good thing is, not only as text, but also in over a hundred info-graphics, so that you can also understand visually how the whole thing is connected. Interviewer: Yes, now we also have this card game on the table. That's another approach that I found special. Perhaps you could say something more about it. Heiko Schöning: Yes, it is made very confusing, of course. When there is a crime, people always try to camouflage and deceive. It's similar in the military, camouflage and deceive. That's why it's relatively complicated. In order to represent something, one should then put it in an order that is already known. And a pack of cards here with 52 hands, that is known. You can play skat, poker and many other games with it. And here the 52 main figures, especially the perpetrators, are depicted, and you understand the order. You have hearts, spades, clubs, diamonds, you understand the order, just as you have an ace or the seven or the queen and the king. And I also put these individual Mafiosi in this order so that you can understand which different clans are at work here. And in fact - if you look at it - we have also included this in German and English in addition to the book, so that you can get a picture of these people. Because when you hear a name, it is much better to remember it if you have a face to go with it. And that's what this whole thing can do. In this book, too, these criminals are always drawn in addition. That is what is important and what is new. This book not only dares to call the perpetrators by name, but also shows the faces and also the criminal connections. Interviewer: If we are now dealing with a mafia, as you say, aren't you taking quite a big risk? Heiko Schöning: Yes, I was already asked that in September 2019, because the draft of this book here, "Game Over", was already on the table two years ago, and I was already able to hold some evidence up to the camera there and also mentioned the connections. Many people who saw it were shocked. This video was then also censored, it was deleted from YouTube and many other things as well. And as you said at the beginning, I have often been prevented from speaking, not only in London, but also in Berlin, on 1 August 2020, there were over a million people on the streets, six hours of peaceful demonstration, and then we doctors were supposed to speak on stage. And then the police stormed the stage. 1 August 2020 in Berlin. And yes, unfortunately, many other things too, that we see: Censorship rules here. Interviewer: Good, this book is available now, I understand, or is that still in the planning stage? Heiko Schöning: No, the book is finished now. A lot more things have gone into it. Instead of publishing it straight away, in which case it would have mainly referred to anthrax from 2001, I decided to say that the new crimes, which are much more important now, which are much bigger, like Covid-19, have to be included in order to show that it is the same criminals who planned it. And criminal foreknowledge is the key to proving that Covid-19 is a scam. And this book just proves to some of the main perpetrators that they had criminal foreknowledge of Covid-19. It was not a surprise, it was all planned. And we also see that the whole thing is orchestrated, worldwide! Interviewer: We are talking about worldwide. So, as an observer, you ask yourself, for example, Australia had one of the most rigid anti-covid strategies: 'Zero Covid' - extremely fast, extremely hard into the lockdowns and you ask yourself: Why Australia? Heiko Schöning: Yes, we have to understand, well, I said, in the card game, different mafia clans are summarised, so to speak. And there is a mafia clan that is now new, which I called the techno mafia. And we have to see that the corporations behind it have a lot of knowledge about people's behaviour from advertising strategies and other things. And you have to think of Covid-19 almost like a product. And it's being rolled out like a product rollout. You don't do that everywhere and suddenly with 100% of the same, but first you do test markets. And unfortunately, Australia and New Zealand are Western test markets for these criminals to see how far they can go with these measures, with this lockdown, with repressive measures. And now the military is also being used against the people to enforce the coercive measures. And that is exactly what we are seeing in Europe and in the USA. Interviewer: Yes, that would have been my next question. That is, you say that if things continue like this, there will be scenes like the one we are seeing in Australia now. Heiko Schöning: Absolutely. And we have seen that before and that is evident. And that is what I also said at the beginning of 2020. And now also in Berlin at this big demonstration of millions on 29 August 2020, where I was actually able to speak in front of over 1 million people this time. In this speech in Berlin I said: Australia is currently demonstrating the lockdown stage and how the whole thing works. And that exactly these measures will also come to Europe. And these measures have actually arrived. As I have clearly said in interviews before, what we are threatened with is medical martial law. And that is exactly what we are experiencing here. Interviewer: Well, the question is: What can be done now? That is a question that many people are concerned about. There were and are people who, based on discussions on the internet, placed very high hopes on the USA, on President Trump, and essentially nothing has come from there. And so one can say that ultimately, waiting can no longer be the order of the day. So, what is your advice to people and how can they support you, for example? Heiko Schöning: Yes, for one thing I have to say that anyone who had actually placed hope in President Trump has been misled. Because it is a set-up. Mr Trump also belongs to the criminals, to a smaller mafia clan. The old Reagan mafia is behind it, the 'Reaganites'. And they are in competition with a big mafia clan, called the 'establishment', which you can look up in detail, so to speak. But also in this book it is clearly stated that Donald Trump is in contact with one of the main criminals, and his name is Edwin Meese, that this person got a medal in October 2019 in the Oval Office still from Donald Trump. And that is one of the main criminals. In short, Donald Trump is also one of them. And we must also actually see that we humans are being driven apart into two camps: vaccinated - unvaccinated. And the USA also now has a great risk of no longer being the United States, but of becoming the Unified States. So it is very, very important that we stay peaceful, that we stay in dialogue and also come, overcome the censorship and not let ourselves be driven apart. Because that is precisely the calculation. Because: "When two quarrel, the third is happy". As Ronald Reagan's right-hand man, Edwin Meese also supplied two sides with weapons: Iran-Contraaffaire, for example, is one of his great crimes. And Iran and Iraq (both sides) were supplied with weapons for eight years, slaughtered and in the end, now American companies have finally taken over the weakened Iraq. And Iran is facing something similar. All I can say is that it's a set-up. And this book also shows the larger structures, the historical structures, how it came about. That's why it's so important to understand what's at the beginning now. That's why the book is structured this way; to go from topical and simplified, to timeless and in-depth. So it's really worth having the courage to read this book. There are many original illustrations there, many sources and you can also independently check it out. Interviewer: Yes, that is also totally important. There will certainly be one or the other who will go looking for it. But you said it's an orchestrated game, it's international. That's why we are perhaps also going to the international level. It certainly makes sense not to keep reinventing the wheel, but to bundle existing initiatives and associations and learn and benefit from each other. You are a member and Vice-President of the "World Doctors Alliance", then of the ACU 2020 and the" World Freedom Alliance". These are all organisations that you support or have founded. Tell us about the importance of these international networks. Heiko Schöning: Yes, one thing is the findings. I actually say we have to do five things. The first thing is that we have to show that they are criminals - and this book shows that they are criminals and that it is also organised crime - and now the question is: What do we do - how do we get involved in actions? And it is important that we come together; we, together and that we also take action against it. And in this respect, I had already proclaimed the "Extra-Parliamentary Corona Investigation Committee" in May 2020 and in June we already had the first kick-off meeting with the first hearings. This is also included in the DVDs here, so the evidence is also shown here, so that you can see that. And in a short time we have also gathered more than 1,000 doctors in Germany who have openly displayed their names on the website to say: "The measures that are being taken here are absolutely excessive!" And in fact even more - and we also say this with the "World Freedom Alliance", i.e. the umbrella organisation of the worldwide freedom movements that have been founded, that we are dealing here with an orchestrated, worldwide crime, and we even go beyond that, that we also offer a better alternative. Because not only to present the problems, but at the same time to present the solution. And there I had the honour, as you rightly said, to also become the vice president of this worldwide medical association there and also of this federation of the freedom movement "The World Freedom Alliance.org". Interviewer: Yes, Mr Schöning - thank you very much for letting us discuss your book today! I wish you much success with it, that as many people as possible read it, that it is something that brings people forward, that it brings them together. I can only agree with that. We will only solve this together, the problem - or not at all. This is an opportunity of the century. You also said that in the preliminary discussion, that is something that gives hope, that we also want to pass on to the people. Is there anything (else) you would like to say to the audience in conclusion? Heiko Schöning: Yes, absolutely! Because you are absolutely right. It is indeed the case that we now have the best chance in over a hundred years to overcome this system, this criminal system in which we live, and not just to accept this criminal, oligarchic 'new normal'; the 'new normal', but to actually create a better normal; a 'better normal'. And that's what the World Freedom Alliance stands for, and that's also what the economic programme "Wirkraft" - "wirkraft.org" stands for. So we really have the best chance now and ... The real difference to earlier years and decades, when there were already war lies about millions of people who had already been killed, is that here in the West attention is now being paid. Because too many people, including myself, have looked away too much from this organised crime over the decades. Millions of dead in Vietnam, in Iraq. Did we really care? Have we done enough? And now it's our turn. And that is the main message. We must now as responsible fathers, civil servants, officers, doctors - everyone. We must come together now and say: No to the mafia! Because at some point it will be our own turn and we are now realising that: economically and also physically. We are not only being patronised, but our lives are in danger and also those of our families. Therefore, stand together now and simply carry the evidence, and it is summarised there; the final report of the Corona Committee of Inquiry, so to speak - carry it on! Thank you very much. Interviewer: Yes, thank you very much. Kla.tv thanks you for this day! Goodbye.
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