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Interview with Dr. Calin Georgescu The BIG „Change“ comes through the people
29.04.2025
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Interview with Dr. Calin Georgescu The BIG „Change“ comes through the people
For the Romanian population, the controversial stop of the presidential election is reason enough to take to the streets for weeks in support of their candidate Georgescu. Dr. Calin Georgescu explains the context in this exclusive interview with Kla.TV
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The presidential election in Romania has come to a temporary halt: there has been no vote rigging or irregularities and a recount of the votes confirms the result of the first round. The independent presidential candidate Călin Georgescu had a good chance of becoming the new president of Romania in the run-off election. Initial counts and projections seem to clearly confirm this trend. But then the Constitutional Court halted the election and ordered new elections. Why is this? Are there forces at work here who find Georgescu's positions on the war with Russia, corona or the CO2 scam a source of irritation? For the Romanian population, this controversial election stop is reason enough to take to the streets in support of their candidate Georgescu. During his visit to Germany on January 11, 2025, presidential candidate Calin Georgescu took the time to answer questions from Kla.TV in an interview.
HG:
Welcome, Dr. Georgescu, here in Germany and here with Kla.TV. We thank you that you are with us now.
CG:
Thank you for having me with the free television, in not only Germany, I guess in Europe.
HG:
Yes, we know that you are running for president in Romania, and you won the first round of elections in the beginning of December (2024) last year, but then this election was canceled by the highest court in Romania. So could you explain to us what happened during the elections and afterwards, and put it a bit in the context? In the context of the big picture, what was going on there? What connections one can discern there?
CG:
Indeed. First of all, yes, it is absolutely clear that the election,... let's say, was illegally and unconstitutionally canceled on December 6th. And, of course, this is because the system is afraid about the big shift, about the change. And here, we have two things that are very important: of course, the first precedent. The precedent is very clear, the precedent for what they did so far, – so what the system did. Which could be happening all over Europe and in the whole world. But also (the second) precedent for what the people did. Because the system, they – and this I want to insist upon a little bit – because the system, not only in Romania, but everywhere, they don't understand, they don't realize, they don't want to accept that the people; they have both a voice and they have power.
HG:
Yes.
CG:
And Romania and the Romanian people, they show everywhere, they show to the whole world that this can happen.
(Yes).
CG:
In a sense that our vote, it's important. And our voice, it's important as well. So, they simply demonstrate everywhere. That the people has power and a voice. And I find with a lot of, of course, dignity that a lot of countries, in fact, the whole world, they realize that.
(Yes).
CG:
And this is very important as the Romanian people's message.
(Yes).
CG:
Because the precedent is also for the system. Because what's happening in Romania, what they dictate through the Constitutional Court of Romania can happen in any country. And also of course, this is very dangerous. It's a damage, which was done so far. And of course, I didn't see too many reactions from abroad. In fact the Romanian people is aware, is totally aware that this was a coup d'etat order from abroad and implemented by the oligarch system. Which in fact, my message and all the time I've said, I'm anti-oligarch system, I am anti-OAK (Open Access to Knowledge, siehe: Berliner Erklärung über offenen Zugang zu wissenschaftlichem Wissen – Wikipedia ) I am anti -LGBTQ. I am pro -Romanian.
(Yes).
CG:
I'm pro -my country. And this is the sovereignty, which we have to look at – all of us. And this was happening. So far.
HG:
Yes. Yes. So it was two surprises. We were surprised that they bluntly stepped over the Constitution and canceled the vote. But they were surprised that the people had been ….so straightforward.
CG:
This was the main important surprise, because they didn't realize – they didn't realize that this could really happen. And this happened.
(Yes).
CG:
By the way, in the early beginning, I was, the (polls were) less than 1% for me as an independent. And even in the last moment, they didn't say anything. I mean, just from, let's say, less than 1% up to 3%. And after that, (media said) a little bit to 5%, to 6%, 8%. But no more. And in the end was… I think it was (the media claiming) around 23 or 24(percent). In any case, what I want to say, generally speaking, is that the lies rush. The truth it waits. So we are waiting.
(Yes).
CG:
Because the truth is waiting for almost 2, 000 years. And it's time. It's time for change. And they cannot realize that this will happen everywhere.
(Yes).
CG:
The people, the human beings, have to be free as was intended – were born of God. And they cannot realize that, the system. And it's important – that what's happening today, in our times, because we can see with our eyes – exactly like in the „pandemic“, whatever, – call it „COVID situation“. We can see what is a truth, what is a lie. And we can compare with our own eyes what is going on.
(Mm hmm.).
CG:
So we are – I am sure – we are in a beautiful moment, a beautiful time. It is a time for a big shift. Particularly for our own life. Because as I said in my campaign, we are starting from the small family, which all of us have, to the big family, which is the country.
(Yes)
CG:
And it's the same management of the situation. You know? You are taking – You take care of your family. You have to take care of your own country. These are the only things which you have to do. No other stuff.
HG:
Yes. Very good. And on both levels, one has to defend this unity, in fact. What about the system that is threatening? Can you say a few more words about where the threat is coming from, or whether those who broke the law now in the beginning of December in Romania…
CG:
Yes, of course. As I said, the Romanian people, of course, are aware, totally aware, that this was coming from a decision from abroad and implemented by the oligarch system in Romania. In fact, what I want to say is that in Europe, it's difficult to say that we have leaders. We have power holders, or puppets – like we have in Romania, puppets. It's not only Romania, of course, but let's say, generally speaking, yeah. So the people, they realize that, and right away they were on the street from the early beginning, from December 6th. Yes. Romanian people are on the street. But not only in Romania. I have seen also in France, in many places, and also in Germany, everywhere.
(Yes, yes.)
CG:
You know about what I'm talking about. And this is encouraging, and moreover, it's very important for us to say that this wave, it's bigger and bigger. It's a snowball effect. And this is a precedent that I'm talking about. It's not only from the system. The most important one that we are talking about is the people. And everybody in the whole world, they have seen that it's possible.
(Right. Right.)
CG:
It's possible to change. To change what? To change, in fact, that we have to take care about our family first. And this is a sovereignty. And if it's your family, the same thing goes for the big family, the country, right? And all of them, they realize that. And all of us, we realize that, that this is really possible. So I think the Romanian people, they open the gates of freedom. This is my position. Besides that, the other reason that they are continually afraid as well, is because – I said all the time... I spoke about peace.
(Yes.)
CG:
And I realize that they are alert about the word peace, because they need war. And I wish to be a president of peace. And they are afraid about that, because they need war. And with this situation the corruption was exposed everywhere. And we spread this wave about dignity, about honor, words which they are not in the dictionary of this system. They do not have these words.
(Mmm).
CG:
But we have these words. And because we have these words.
(Yes.)
CG:
We strongly believe. Do you know what makes the difference? The difference is: what I am saying I strongly believe in. What they are saying, they don't believe. It's just a lie. And we are talking here about true believers (people with convictions). And they are everywhere today. True believers. Exactly what we did in Romania. will happen for sure very soon everywhere and they are very very afraid about that. Very afraid.
HG:
So Romania now can be a forerunner of this and what is your – what are your objectives for your – for a presidency in Romania? What do you wish and what is your vision for Romania ?
CG:
First of all it is peace. The peace is coming from us, first of all.
HG:
Yes, it's a very crucial issue.
CG:
This is very important! Peace! You know I serve at the United Nations for almost 17 years now and in all the conferences or meetings, or whatever I had, peace was – just had to stay in the corner and was waiting to have the floor but she didn't receive the floor. The people they talked and they talked about peace, but in fact it was nothing about peace. And peace was, as I said, was very simply forced to stay and wait in the corner and nobody said to her: „Please; take the floor!“ And this was happening permanently. Besides this, in 1945, the United Nations was born for one simple target objective: peace. This was after the Second World War which everybody knows – we know about that. And from 1945 until today where we are doing this interview, there were more than one thousand wars and battles and different other stuff like that and – I didn't see the United Nations presence in Moscow or in Kiev or in Washington to speak about the peace. Because this was their subject, peace. And we made a contribution towards that – all of us me you, because our countries they did contributions and they have been doing contributions constantly for peace but it's not like that anymore. Look at what's happening in Africa, in Asia, everywhere in the world not only in Ukraine. And of course when... and internationally – in fact Legacy Media they asked me about: What will you be doing when you'll be president about the support of Ukraine? I said I shall stop the support for Ukraine because I shall take care of my family first. Why do I have to take care of others? In fact it is not my war. (Yes, yes.) And they are desperate about that. So this is number one, peace.
Number two is very simple: the economy in general is not something – how can I say it – it's not very very complicated and difficult. You simply have to do what you did and what you are doing with your own family. You take care of your family first you don't take care about the neighbor but, take care of your family first and after that take care of your neighbor, neighbors, whatever there are. So we have to take care of us; to use everything which we have for our own purpose and needs and the moment when the economy is flourishing you can help others. Correct?
(Yes.)
CG:
And then you can give to others, but not – there should not be foreigners who have to control my economy, my family. No. I mean it's someone from outside who is coming into my house and saying I should take care of your family. How is that possible? No, this is not possible. So here the Romanian people – they said; „Stop“. So this I am doing: peace and family – to take care of our own family.
HG:
Concerning the peace question: what about the NATO presence in Constanta and Deveselu – what are your thoughts about these possible points of focus?
CG:
Yes, I understood this (question) and we are happy to be in NATO and in the European Union as far as – particularly NATO is a defensive organization – so in a sense of „of course to protect us“. I didn't see in the Constitution of NATO „offensive“ organization. If it is „offensive“, this offends us. And this is not correct! And about the military base, we have to evaluate. Maybe need improvement, maybe need something more. I don't know, but we have to evaluate what is there. So we have to be, how can I say it, we have to be aware that first comes Romania. First is our family. From this point we have to discuss everything, everything else. Not only these NATO military bases. Everything. So here we are. And based on that, I think each country, each country, has to do the same. I mean, there are not others who dictate what you have to do. You have to know much better than them what you have to do. So in general, the world and this planet can cover all our needs for sure. But also for sure, it cannot cover our greeds. This is impossible. And we have to eliminate this greed. Because there's a moment when you have a relationship with God, it's enough to understand your purpose in this life.
HG:
Yes. And in the context of this past corona pandemic, many things went wrong. What do you think has to be done about this? What would be a proper reappraisal of these events?
CG:
Well, I don't say event. Maybe it was a crime against humanity. But in any case, this has to be evaluated very strictly, the situation, which already passed in the sense that nobody asked anything about that. But there were a lot of things which have to be very, very well evaluated. And especially who designed to implement this. Because it's absolutely clear that there are a lot of problems everywhere and a lot of negative feedback for a lot of people. In any case, besides this, the situation – the corona pandemic situation shows us, also the positive point in the sense that we show… we have seen the corruption exposed.
HG:
Right.
CG:
And the people are aware what the governments can do, and how science can be so corrupt to listen to the governments or, in fact, oligarchs' system instead of taking care of the people.
HG:
Yeah, obviously.
CG:
So it's only a matter of time... But in any case we had heroes who; they left this life based on as I said due to a criminal act made by others, so in any case everybody is talking about that, but nobody has the courage to say this has happened. So we have to be aware that this is for our purpose; for the future, to understand better who we are and who dictates about or for our life. We have to dictate about our life not others. This is a main important point of the situation, yeah.
CG:
thank you.
HG:
Yes, thank you. So here a crime was exposed and people learn from it.
CG:
People learn from it – it was for lesson learning, this was my opinion on that. But, besides that we had a lot of drama and of course we have to be aware that there are people who left this life for – just for the matter of political decisions.
HG:
Yes. One last question. What do you envisage now as next steps for your presidential campaign and for your goals?
CG:
So first of all of course we realize that they are putting into place a dictatorship era. And of course we have to fight in a most decent way and manner for our rights, for our freedom, for our democracy. We cannot accept to cancel the second round so we are looking for the second round of the elections in the legal manner. And we trust, of course for the future in in our rights exactly, as I said. So... what is happening in Romania as in the presence of a dictatorship era can happen in any other country. So the next step – and we are now – and exactly what we did right now, and what we have to do is: we are, within the frame of the justice (system) we fight not only in Romanian court but also in international European courts as well, so we continue like that and we are waiting – exactly as I said that „the truth waits“. So no issue at all (it it clear) that the change will happen very soon. Yes, we are continuing we are continuing. This is the most important answer to your question – we are continuing to be aware about this situation about our rights we are continuing to believe in in our dignity in our honor as human being so we believe in our land and in God.
HG:
Yes; and what will be the role of the people in these coming steps?
CG:
To be true believers: to strongly believe in themselves first, and if they believe in themselves and they have this attitude they can spread it everywhere – the principle of life because otherwise if you listen about what you have to do from others it has no impact. You have to strongly believe in you and the relationship with God is the most important part. So with what is happening in Romania we show that we don't play games! We strongly believe in our life, in our land which we didn't receive from Brussels, we didn't receive from Washington, we received from God who is a spirit of love. We have to believe in love! We have to believe in God and we have to believe in us – the most important point – otherwise we cannot do anything! So, the people they have to be aware about who they are. What is our role? What we do we achieve now? What do we have to do? What is our purpose in this life? And it's not about the system, it's about us. The peace or the contribution for the peace in the world is coming from the inside peace so we discuss about the „inner engineering“ first. Thank you.
HG:
Yes. So the people is going – or you are calling on the people to ...
CG:
To believe in themselves first – in them, in their inside power...
HG:
and they – they already demonstrated quite a good level of this...
CG:
Of course! Of course. You have to understand that here we don't discuss about salaries, we don't discuss about pension, we don't discuss about better hospitals or better roads. We discuss about our soul, our dignity as human beings, we discuss about our families, we discuss about the about honor and this is more important than anything else. So here we are. So, I... I strongly believe in that and I recommend to all of them trust in you first – what you can do...
HG:
What we often speak about – do, is for example that people gather in rallies, that they are sharing news – uncensored news, that they are aware of things and are not being misled...
CG:
Exactly! So here we are: in the moment when people are aware about their „inside“ as I said their „inside engineering“ things are totally different. I mean maturity is not someone who is coming to tell you what you have to do; you have to know first what you have to do.
HG:
Excellent!
CG:
Thank you. Thank you.
HG:
Yes, thanks a lot thanks for this this enlightening interview and we expect all the best! We wish you all the best for your ongoing campaign and all the procedures and the next steps.
CG:
Let's say it together not only for myself. Thank you for that, but we have to be together. It's for for a common purpose! Thank you.
HG:
Yes! Thank you very much.
CG:
Thank you I appreciate it.
HG:
Thank you very much.
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Interview with Dr. Calin Georgescu The BIG „Change“ comes through the people
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29.04.2025 | www.kla.tv/37533
The presidential election in Romania has come to a temporary halt: there has been no vote rigging or irregularities and a recount of the votes confirms the result of the first round. The independent presidential candidate Călin Georgescu had a good chance of becoming the new president of Romania in the run-off election. Initial counts and projections seem to clearly confirm this trend. But then the Constitutional Court halted the election and ordered new elections. Why is this? Are there forces at work here who find Georgescu's positions on the war with Russia, corona or the CO2 scam a source of irritation? For the Romanian population, this controversial election stop is reason enough to take to the streets in support of their candidate Georgescu. During his visit to Germany on January 11, 2025, presidential candidate Calin Georgescu took the time to answer questions from Kla.TV in an interview. HG: Welcome, Dr. Georgescu, here in Germany and here with Kla.TV. We thank you that you are with us now. CG: Thank you for having me with the free television, in not only Germany, I guess in Europe. HG: Yes, we know that you are running for president in Romania, and you won the first round of elections in the beginning of December (2024) last year, but then this election was canceled by the highest court in Romania. So could you explain to us what happened during the elections and afterwards, and put it a bit in the context? In the context of the big picture, what was going on there? What connections one can discern there? CG: Indeed. First of all, yes, it is absolutely clear that the election,... let's say, was illegally and unconstitutionally canceled on December 6th. And, of course, this is because the system is afraid about the big shift, about the change. And here, we have two things that are very important: of course, the first precedent. The precedent is very clear, the precedent for what they did so far, – so what the system did. Which could be happening all over Europe and in the whole world. But also (the second) precedent for what the people did. Because the system, they – and this I want to insist upon a little bit – because the system, not only in Romania, but everywhere, they don't understand, they don't realize, they don't want to accept that the people; they have both a voice and they have power. HG: Yes. CG: And Romania and the Romanian people, they show everywhere, they show to the whole world that this can happen. (Yes). CG: In a sense that our vote, it's important. And our voice, it's important as well. So, they simply demonstrate everywhere. That the people has power and a voice. And I find with a lot of, of course, dignity that a lot of countries, in fact, the whole world, they realize that. (Yes). CG: And this is very important as the Romanian people's message. (Yes). CG: Because the precedent is also for the system. Because what's happening in Romania, what they dictate through the Constitutional Court of Romania can happen in any country. And also of course, this is very dangerous. It's a damage, which was done so far. And of course, I didn't see too many reactions from abroad. In fact the Romanian people is aware, is totally aware that this was a coup d'etat order from abroad and implemented by the oligarch system. Which in fact, my message and all the time I've said, I'm anti-oligarch system, I am anti-OAK (Open Access to Knowledge, siehe: Berliner Erklärung über offenen Zugang zu wissenschaftlichem Wissen – Wikipedia ) I am anti -LGBTQ. I am pro -Romanian. (Yes). CG: I'm pro -my country. And this is the sovereignty, which we have to look at – all of us. And this was happening. So far. HG: Yes. Yes. So it was two surprises. We were surprised that they bluntly stepped over the Constitution and canceled the vote. But they were surprised that the people had been ….so straightforward. CG: This was the main important surprise, because they didn't realize – they didn't realize that this could really happen. And this happened. (Yes). CG: By the way, in the early beginning, I was, the (polls were) less than 1% for me as an independent. And even in the last moment, they didn't say anything. I mean, just from, let's say, less than 1% up to 3%. And after that, (media said) a little bit to 5%, to 6%, 8%. But no more. And in the end was… I think it was (the media claiming) around 23 or 24(percent). In any case, what I want to say, generally speaking, is that the lies rush. The truth it waits. So we are waiting. (Yes). CG: Because the truth is waiting for almost 2, 000 years. And it's time. It's time for change. And they cannot realize that this will happen everywhere. (Yes). CG: The people, the human beings, have to be free as was intended – were born of God. And they cannot realize that, the system. And it's important – that what's happening today, in our times, because we can see with our eyes – exactly like in the „pandemic“, whatever, – call it „COVID situation“. We can see what is a truth, what is a lie. And we can compare with our own eyes what is going on. (Mm hmm.). CG: So we are – I am sure – we are in a beautiful moment, a beautiful time. It is a time for a big shift. Particularly for our own life. Because as I said in my campaign, we are starting from the small family, which all of us have, to the big family, which is the country. (Yes) CG: And it's the same management of the situation. You know? You are taking – You take care of your family. You have to take care of your own country. These are the only things which you have to do. No other stuff. HG: Yes. Very good. And on both levels, one has to defend this unity, in fact. What about the system that is threatening? Can you say a few more words about where the threat is coming from, or whether those who broke the law now in the beginning of December in Romania… CG: Yes, of course. As I said, the Romanian people, of course, are aware, totally aware, that this was coming from a decision from abroad and implemented by the oligarch system in Romania. In fact, what I want to say is that in Europe, it's difficult to say that we have leaders. We have power holders, or puppets – like we have in Romania, puppets. It's not only Romania, of course, but let's say, generally speaking, yeah. So the people, they realize that, and right away they were on the street from the early beginning, from December 6th. Yes. Romanian people are on the street. But not only in Romania. I have seen also in France, in many places, and also in Germany, everywhere. (Yes, yes.) CG: You know about what I'm talking about. And this is encouraging, and moreover, it's very important for us to say that this wave, it's bigger and bigger. It's a snowball effect. And this is a precedent that I'm talking about. It's not only from the system. The most important one that we are talking about is the people. And everybody in the whole world, they have seen that it's possible. (Right. Right.) CG: It's possible to change. To change what? To change, in fact, that we have to take care about our family first. And this is a sovereignty. And if it's your family, the same thing goes for the big family, the country, right? And all of them, they realize that. And all of us, we realize that, that this is really possible. So I think the Romanian people, they open the gates of freedom. This is my position. Besides that, the other reason that they are continually afraid as well, is because – I said all the time... I spoke about peace. (Yes.) CG: And I realize that they are alert about the word peace, because they need war. And I wish to be a president of peace. And they are afraid about that, because they need war. And with this situation the corruption was exposed everywhere. And we spread this wave about dignity, about honor, words which they are not in the dictionary of this system. They do not have these words. (Mmm). CG: But we have these words. And because we have these words. (Yes.) CG: We strongly believe. Do you know what makes the difference? The difference is: what I am saying I strongly believe in. What they are saying, they don't believe. It's just a lie. And we are talking here about true believers (people with convictions). And they are everywhere today. True believers. Exactly what we did in Romania. will happen for sure very soon everywhere and they are very very afraid about that. Very afraid. HG: So Romania now can be a forerunner of this and what is your – what are your objectives for your – for a presidency in Romania? What do you wish and what is your vision for Romania ? CG: First of all it is peace. The peace is coming from us, first of all. HG: Yes, it's a very crucial issue. CG: This is very important! Peace! You know I serve at the United Nations for almost 17 years now and in all the conferences or meetings, or whatever I had, peace was – just had to stay in the corner and was waiting to have the floor but she didn't receive the floor. The people they talked and they talked about peace, but in fact it was nothing about peace. And peace was, as I said, was very simply forced to stay and wait in the corner and nobody said to her: „Please; take the floor!“ And this was happening permanently. Besides this, in 1945, the United Nations was born for one simple target objective: peace. This was after the Second World War which everybody knows – we know about that. And from 1945 until today where we are doing this interview, there were more than one thousand wars and battles and different other stuff like that and – I didn't see the United Nations presence in Moscow or in Kiev or in Washington to speak about the peace. Because this was their subject, peace. And we made a contribution towards that – all of us me you, because our countries they did contributions and they have been doing contributions constantly for peace but it's not like that anymore. Look at what's happening in Africa, in Asia, everywhere in the world not only in Ukraine. And of course when... and internationally – in fact Legacy Media they asked me about: What will you be doing when you'll be president about the support of Ukraine? I said I shall stop the support for Ukraine because I shall take care of my family first. Why do I have to take care of others? In fact it is not my war. (Yes, yes.) And they are desperate about that. So this is number one, peace. Number two is very simple: the economy in general is not something – how can I say it – it's not very very complicated and difficult. You simply have to do what you did and what you are doing with your own family. You take care of your family first you don't take care about the neighbor but, take care of your family first and after that take care of your neighbor, neighbors, whatever there are. So we have to take care of us; to use everything which we have for our own purpose and needs and the moment when the economy is flourishing you can help others. Correct? (Yes.) CG: And then you can give to others, but not – there should not be foreigners who have to control my economy, my family. No. I mean it's someone from outside who is coming into my house and saying I should take care of your family. How is that possible? No, this is not possible. So here the Romanian people – they said; „Stop“. So this I am doing: peace and family – to take care of our own family. HG: Concerning the peace question: what about the NATO presence in Constanta and Deveselu – what are your thoughts about these possible points of focus? CG: Yes, I understood this (question) and we are happy to be in NATO and in the European Union as far as – particularly NATO is a defensive organization – so in a sense of „of course to protect us“. I didn't see in the Constitution of NATO „offensive“ organization. If it is „offensive“, this offends us. And this is not correct! And about the military base, we have to evaluate. Maybe need improvement, maybe need something more. I don't know, but we have to evaluate what is there. So we have to be, how can I say it, we have to be aware that first comes Romania. First is our family. From this point we have to discuss everything, everything else. Not only these NATO military bases. Everything. So here we are. And based on that, I think each country, each country, has to do the same. I mean, there are not others who dictate what you have to do. You have to know much better than them what you have to do. So in general, the world and this planet can cover all our needs for sure. But also for sure, it cannot cover our greeds. This is impossible. And we have to eliminate this greed. Because there's a moment when you have a relationship with God, it's enough to understand your purpose in this life. HG: Yes. And in the context of this past corona pandemic, many things went wrong. What do you think has to be done about this? What would be a proper reappraisal of these events? CG: Well, I don't say event. Maybe it was a crime against humanity. But in any case, this has to be evaluated very strictly, the situation, which already passed in the sense that nobody asked anything about that. But there were a lot of things which have to be very, very well evaluated. And especially who designed to implement this. Because it's absolutely clear that there are a lot of problems everywhere and a lot of negative feedback for a lot of people. In any case, besides this, the situation – the corona pandemic situation shows us, also the positive point in the sense that we show… we have seen the corruption exposed. HG: Right. CG: And the people are aware what the governments can do, and how science can be so corrupt to listen to the governments or, in fact, oligarchs' system instead of taking care of the people. HG: Yeah, obviously. CG: So it's only a matter of time... But in any case we had heroes who; they left this life based on as I said due to a criminal act made by others, so in any case everybody is talking about that, but nobody has the courage to say this has happened. So we have to be aware that this is for our purpose; for the future, to understand better who we are and who dictates about or for our life. We have to dictate about our life not others. This is a main important point of the situation, yeah. CG: thank you. HG: Yes, thank you. So here a crime was exposed and people learn from it. CG: People learn from it – it was for lesson learning, this was my opinion on that. But, besides that we had a lot of drama and of course we have to be aware that there are people who left this life for – just for the matter of political decisions. HG: Yes. One last question. What do you envisage now as next steps for your presidential campaign and for your goals? CG: So first of all of course we realize that they are putting into place a dictatorship era. And of course we have to fight in a most decent way and manner for our rights, for our freedom, for our democracy. We cannot accept to cancel the second round so we are looking for the second round of the elections in the legal manner. And we trust, of course for the future in in our rights exactly, as I said. So... what is happening in Romania as in the presence of a dictatorship era can happen in any other country. So the next step – and we are now – and exactly what we did right now, and what we have to do is: we are, within the frame of the justice (system) we fight not only in Romanian court but also in international European courts as well, so we continue like that and we are waiting – exactly as I said that „the truth waits“. So no issue at all (it it clear) that the change will happen very soon. Yes, we are continuing we are continuing. This is the most important answer to your question – we are continuing to be aware about this situation about our rights we are continuing to believe in in our dignity in our honor as human being so we believe in our land and in God. HG: Yes; and what will be the role of the people in these coming steps? CG: To be true believers: to strongly believe in themselves first, and if they believe in themselves and they have this attitude they can spread it everywhere – the principle of life because otherwise if you listen about what you have to do from others it has no impact. You have to strongly believe in you and the relationship with God is the most important part. So with what is happening in Romania we show that we don't play games! We strongly believe in our life, in our land which we didn't receive from Brussels, we didn't receive from Washington, we received from God who is a spirit of love. We have to believe in love! We have to believe in God and we have to believe in us – the most important point – otherwise we cannot do anything! So, the people they have to be aware about who they are. What is our role? What we do we achieve now? What do we have to do? What is our purpose in this life? And it's not about the system, it's about us. The peace or the contribution for the peace in the world is coming from the inside peace so we discuss about the „inner engineering“ first. Thank you. HG: Yes. So the people is going – or you are calling on the people to ... CG: To believe in themselves first – in them, in their inside power... HG: and they – they already demonstrated quite a good level of this... CG: Of course! Of course. You have to understand that here we don't discuss about salaries, we don't discuss about pension, we don't discuss about better hospitals or better roads. We discuss about our soul, our dignity as human beings, we discuss about our families, we discuss about the about honor and this is more important than anything else. So here we are. So, I... I strongly believe in that and I recommend to all of them trust in you first – what you can do... HG: What we often speak about – do, is for example that people gather in rallies, that they are sharing news – uncensored news, that they are aware of things and are not being misled... CG: Exactly! So here we are: in the moment when people are aware about their „inside“ as I said their „inside engineering“ things are totally different. I mean maturity is not someone who is coming to tell you what you have to do; you have to know first what you have to do. HG: Excellent! CG: Thank you. Thank you. HG: Yes, thanks a lot thanks for this this enlightening interview and we expect all the best! We wish you all the best for your ongoing campaign and all the procedures and the next steps. CG: Let's say it together not only for myself. Thank you for that, but we have to be together. It's for for a common purpose! Thank you. HG: Yes! Thank you very much. CG: Thank you I appreciate it. HG: Thank you very much.
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