Ritual Child Abuse: Kla.TV Uncovering Censored Crimes! KinderschutzTV interviews Kla.TV-Production Manager Lois Sasek

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11.04.2025 | www.kla.tv/37292

[Interviewer Mira:] Welcome, dear viewers of KinderschutzTV. Nice to see you back on this important topic, since here we stand together for the safety and protection of our children. And in order to bring the Child Protection Congress to a close, I have a very special person here with me. She is a film producer, author and manager of over 100 TV studios. She has produced over 20,000 truth uncovering programs with volunteer teams and published them in over 80 languages. She is the production manager of Kla.TV. This is a channel – for those who don't yet know about it – that was founded back in 2012 and regularly reaches an audience of millions. As an author, she has been particularly active on behalf of children and has therefore tackled the frightening issue of ritual child abuse. And this, although she is extremely busy, as she told me. And that's why I'm all the more pleased that you've taken the time to join us. Welcome, Lois Sasek! [Lois Sasek:] Hello Mira, thank you very much for the invitation. I am very happy to be here. I think it's really great that you are doing so much for the children. Thank you. [Interviewer Mira:] Yes I am myself very grateful for this!. Would you like to say a bit more about yourself, and how you conceived the idea of dealing with the topic of child protection? [Lois Sasek:] Sure. First of all, I'd like to say so I won't forget and that is to send warm regards from my family, from my father Ivo Sasek, who founded Kla.TV, and also from the whole Kla.TV team. We love and appreciate you very much. [Interviewer Mira:] Thank you, thank you. [Lois Sasek:] So about Kla.TV and then about myself. The fact that we can broadcast in so many languages and regularly reach millions is because we are a global organism, that has grown over decades. Organism means: all these people are working together as one body. Everyone with their gift, with what they can put in – no organ is unimportant, no matter what its function may be. Everyone is fully involved, even if it is an inconspicuous organ or a hidden organ – everyone is equally important. There are thousands taking part in this work as a swarm and everyone puts in their own part. It's all voluntary work, nobody asks for a wage. And that is of course our big advantage, which is why we are constantly growing, because we are completely independent. Ok, now a word about myself. Ever since I was a little girl, I've had a great role model, and that is my father Ivo Sasek. He launched this worldwide organic movement and has spent decades teaching people how to function as an organism, and how the organism works. And this is the basis of Kla.TV and also everything else he founded. And for me, my father is the bravest and most sincere person I have ever met. However, he has been grossly persecuted for decades by influential people in this world, who attack him primarily through the media. There have even been attempts on his life. But he is still there and tells the truth again and again, fearlessly, he does not allow himself to be intimidated, but exposes these outrageous deeds of the powerful and that's why he founded Kla.tv and the Anti-Censorship Coalition AZK. And there all these persecuted and all censored people can have a voice, and this way we expose all these crimes and are being slandered for it. So everyone who is slandered has a voice there. And it was always like that with my father, even though he was vilified from the start, even though people wanted to destroy him, he always remained strong. And he is my personal role model in everything I do. And he is not only my role model. Hundreds and thousands try to follow his example and they all experience the same thing: that you simply become stronger if you speak the truth fearlessly, when you refuse to be intimidated, when you simply look at things. That's my experience, if you just look at things and do what you can, you actually have a lot of joy and strength every day. And as soon as you simply start to become active, these heavenly forces come into play, where fear disappears and light conquers darkness, truth conquers lies. Yes, this fearlessness simply comes into play. And you asked about the children. This fearlessness and courage comes from facing these hardships in the world. And that's how the topic of children occured to me. It was back in 2012. And that's why I told you a bit about my father, because he was actually the initiator of everything for me, he started in 2012 with the documentary film "Forced Sex" He produced it. In this film, several victims and witnesses testify to the ritual child abuse. And it is a very strong work. And he also made a feature film on the topic: "Kosima Perfectly Naive". And he did a lot of research for these films, he really uncovered crimes in them. Also this way of stealthily entering the school system with early sexualization, and how these assaults on children come about, is also shown there. It was very well researched and backed up with facts. And I was the production manager on set and also supervised the post-production. It was a huge effort with volunteer actors, prop masters, cameras, technicians, coaches, everything... And this movie then was banned by the FSK! That's a body in Germany responsible for determining ratings for films. A harmless movie, showing facts how our children are in danger. So you can become 120-years old and still not be allowed to watch the movie. And that just made me go for it. And after we had severely censored content of the movie, took it out, they raised the age to 16. Isn't this absolute madness when you think about the kind of films being released from the age of 6, or 0. And the movie is so harmless. But it's about child protection. That's your topic. And my father founded Kla.tv that same year. We experienced the same thing again. The programs on the subject of ritual violence against children were censored and deleted from YouTube everywhere. So we should have put age restrictions on our site because it's so cruel. And we couldn't manage that technically, that you can only watch it if you're 18 and so on. And then people always reported they couldn't watch it, it is far too bad. So at some point we stopped reporting on the topic. But this really troubled me that these children must experience those terrible things. While we can't even cope with listening or watching. But these children had to suffer these cruel things. And then one day I simply dedicated myself to this terrible topic, I looked for a way to bring it up so that it wouldn't be censored, so that people would look at it and somehow not switch it off. And then my idea was that you don't have to listen to every victim for an hour or two. It's so cruel, you can't bear it. Or that I would simply put the core statements of each victim in a row so you'd see how these statements coincide everywhere, worldwide, from all countries, and it's not arranged. not coordinated. But everyone tells the same things. And I've actually reached 13.6 million people with the ten programs I've done so far. That was a major breakthrough for this topic, because mostly this topic wouldn't be watched at all. People prefer not to look. In the past we already had smaller programs on the topic with only very few clicks. But in this new format, in these documentaries, where I then line up all the cases, it somehow ... just broke through more. Although, as I said, I didn't have much time for that, as you've already mentioned. But then I just did it at night. Because you simply have to do something and people's awareness needs to be raised more. And I think that's what's happening more and more. That's about me and Kla.TV. [Interviewer Mira:] Yes, there are many, many points that I would very, very much like to follow up on. But let's stick to the topic for now, because you really had the courage to bring yourself to produce these terrible reports and to research them and really go into depth. That's something else when you can watch some of it but then press "pause" in between. But you really have to get into it properly. And you also produced this three-part documentary, the "Blood Sect", which is so shocking. I really have to say the same about myself. I've been working intensively on this topic, but it was really, really hard to bear. And that's also my follow-up question, because on the one hand, of course, there's the Child Protection Congress, but there is also my work as a therapist: We always get feedback on how difficult it is for parents, or for people in general, to even begin to loo at what is happening Or to even just allow the possibility that these issues really exist. And then to come to terms with them. What would you say to the parents and viewers now, yes, who are watching this, why is it so important to deal with this topic? [Lois Sasek:] Yes, I'm happy to do that, Mira, but I have to elaborate a bit. We at Kla.TV see it as our task to give a voice to those who are censored by the mainstream. I experienced it myself from an early age, how my parents were unjustly defamed and slandered. Rumors have been circulated, lies spread, whereas I myself am a witness to the fact that it's not true at all. And many years ago we had no idea why this was the case and then we started researching. And that's why my dad then founded these platforms like Kla.TV, the Anti-Censorship Coalition, so that people can simply listen to what these people say, those who are slandered and censored and defamed in the same way as we are. For example, people who warn about the health risks through mobile communications or the side effects of vaccinations and so on. And that's how it all started. Now at Kla.TV, we have twelve topic categories where all topics are discussed in turn. But the topic of satanic-ritual abuse and pedocriminality is just one of the many sub-topics that we're dealing with. But since 2008, when my father founded this Anti-Censorship Coalition (AZK), we've had a clearer and clearer picture of what's actually going on here. And now I come to your question. We have collected various cases with a team for over ten years. It is precisely those victims and witnesses who do not have a voice, just as we do in all other areas. And then hundreds of witness reports from all over the world ... are available to us, we have researched them. And they all made absolutely identical statements independently of each other. They say the same thing, namely that there is an absolutely brutal sect. So not everyone calls it the same thing, but they say, they are very well networked with each other and they are mainly ... from the upper levels of society, they say. And many victims talk about Satanism in this context, or even Freemasonry in the upper degrees. But all the victims always say the same thing, that these perpetrators are very rich and powerful and that they are therefore in a position to categorically cover up these brutalities, which have been witnessed by hundreds of thousands. And all those who could do something about it are said to be themselves involved, mostly from the highest levels. So that's what they say, be it in the media, the secret services, the police or even judges or senior lawyers. They are all said to be involved, or at least these key authorities and bodies that could take action against it. And this is also confirmed by the founder of the Satanic Church, Anton Szandor LaVey, who himself says that most of the members of this Satanic Church are professionals and business people and people from responsible positions and respected circles. And then I really only let these victims and witnesses have their say, who show their faces, because media don't do that. And that is our job. The media don't do it. And there were a lot of interviews and broadcasts planned. And that's important for our viewers now. They had already been planned to speak in public media and were all stopped shortly before publication. From the executive floor. So that happened with various broadcasts. For example, in July 2023, SRF, Swiss Radio and Television, stopped the broadcast of a documentary on this topic of ritual abuse at the highest level of SRF. And at the last minute. Suddenly they turned the tide because the movie was supposed to contain conspiracy narrative elements. But Ursula Brunner, the long-standing SRF director, rejected these accusations because they were unfounded. And we paid for that with 75,000 francs in Serafe fees. A total of 125,000 from the public sector. But although this is such an important topic for the general public, it was simply cancelled. And we had even already paid all these fees. So the journalists do a great job at the lowest level, they do good research, but at the highest level it is simply being stopped. And that wasn't just the case with SRF, it was also the case with our biggest newspaper in Switzerland, the 20-Minuten-Zeitung, also with German broadcasters. And I've heard that from many witnesses. For example, survivor Chantal Frei, or a Turkish victim, Hajar. They all report exactly the same thing. They had promises that their reports or the interview would be broadcast or printed. And then it was simply stopped at the highest level. And therefore completely independent broadcasters have to take up this topic. Broadcasters like us, who have no profit motives and who just ... we do it all on a voluntary basis and so we can't be blackmailed. And so in my first documentary here I had 27 witnesses and 27 victims have their say. In the second, there were already 111 victims and 50 witnesses. And interestingly, many of them testified to the same thing independently of each other, about this worldwide perpetrator network. And why I'm telling you all this is because you need to hear the crowd all saying the same thing. And that is a reason for me to listen. They all say the same thing, that (these) are well-off people who are involved in these atrocities, that famous personalities are also involved in these things and that many victims are then also passed around across countries. And then they meet these prominent people there. Like it happened in the Epstein scandal, for example, which became public. And the victims testify that even the politicians and heads of state who are at loggerheads with each other attend the same cruel parties in the background and are friends there. So on the outside they're standing against each other, shouting at each other and in the background they're at the same party. And in this second documentary of mine, the victims and witnesses even called 50 of such perpetrators by name. And I think you just have to listen to that. You simply have to look, because the statements are so frighteningly similar, from old to young. And I really came into contact with victims and witnesses from every kind of age group. And as I said, the statements even coincide in detail concerning such rituals, Satanic rituals. The statements matched down to the last detail, even though these people have nothing to do with each other. And in the past, for example, Germany's broadcasters ARD, ZDF, NDR... were still reporting on it until this lever was pulled and these revelations were stopped. You may remember, years ago this movie, the documentary "Höllenleben" was broadcast on NDR, but in recent years the subject matter has simply disappeared more and more. This is a scandal! It has disappeared from the public media. And that gave me the reason to address this topic. And in my third documentary there were even 247 victims and 135 witnesses to have their say. This means that many more people come forward every year. And then in these well-researched, elaborately researched documentaries, we show that these are not exceptional cases, but that there is simply a system to this. At least that's what everyone says. And now in this documentary, for example, the victims are even naming 172 accomplices and perpetrators. And if you dig into this topic and then start to pull on this thread, more and more and more comes to light. And I only released my last documentary in October. And since then I have, believe it or not, 77 new victim reports and a total of 190 witnesses and new perpetrator names. It never ends, it's a bottomless pit. And you have to bear in mind that the people who come forward are again only a fraction of the actual number of victims, because the witnesses always testify to the same fact, that the victims are also killed. So before they even reach adolescence, around the age of 13, they are no longer of interest to these serious criminal child abusers. And then these perverts get the ultimate kick out of it by cruelly torturing and killing the older children they no longer find sexually attractive. Once again, that's what they all consistently testify. For example, Regina Louf, a witness to the most serious child abuse in the Dutroux scandal, tells us exactly about these tortures and murders and all these things. And because more and more statements have now been deleted from the Internet in recent years, we are now really working on securing all these cases that we come across in many places internationally. We are currently creating a large archive that is so broadly based that it is indestructible. Because I could make endless documentaries, it never stops. But we are working on securing all of this and making it possible for many more victims and witnesses to come forward and for these reports, as I said, to be secured and made accessible. In short, to your question, I would like to encourage all viewers and all parents to simply take a hold of these voices, because there are simply so many of them. And on www.50voices.org, for example, there are other 50 survivors who have their say. And I simply say that you have to listen, whether you like it or not, because these people are suffering. They say something, they shout it out and I can just say this – I wanted to point out the abundance that there is, please look at it! [Interviewer Mira:] Yes, it's basically like an existing parallel world, which is so gigantic that we don't even have a concept of it. Can you perhaps give a few more brief points, briefly summarize in digestible points, I would say, about what you came up with in your research. [Lois Sasek:] Yes, well, over the last twelve years I've come to the realization that it's always exactly the same people and media that persecute and defame us. So justice fighters who really want to do good – they call them a dangerous sect. But these are the same people who keep the lid on when such blatant crimes against children are reported. That is my personal experience: These hundreds of survivors and witnesses, they keep coming forward, don't they? They say that there is this terrible sect, that they do it in secret, that they are well enough networked and that they have a lot of power and money. And I've noticed that it's the same people who discredit justice-loving people, criminalize them and do smear-campaigns in the media about them, but these are the very people who want to expose this. And then they organize a mega smear campaign so that you certainly won't listen to them. But then they categorically conceal or trivialize all the atrocities that have been witnessed and then it is all – what do they call it – a conspiracy theory, "satanic panic", and then it is propagated that all these victims and witnesses would only have false memories, so-called "false memories". And now it's even more alarming that the "false memory syndrome foundation" was founded, co-founded, by a self-confessed pedophile named Ralph Underwager – now think about that. And in 2022, Swiss television defamed so many people who wanted to help the victims, who gave them a voice, and then these people even lost their jobs. So, therapists were fired, senior physicians were fired, teachers were fired, and they were all fired just a few days after the SRF program was broadcast. They had all succumbed to a conspiracy theory it was said... and the very same Swiss television station SRF really overdid it with slander against us, against my father Ivo Sasek, and that was the decisive point where I simply started “Blood Cult 1”. I felt it is enough that they portray my father as a brutal leader of a sect who would beat his children. And I know him from everyday life, he's the complete opposite, I've never experienced violence from him, never a bad word and ... this Georg Otto Schmid, he even says we'd be ritually chastised. So, you have to imagine that, we'd have to stand in line to get a beat somehow; imagine that! And I grew up there, I grew up in that family, I've never experienced anything like this! The word ritually, where does he take that from? How do people like that come up with something like that? I only ever experienced love, appreciation and support from my parents. Our parents always gave us the best possible support and lifted us up. It's absolute shit what the media are saying and what these evil people are saying – sorry for the swearword. But it is precisely this Georg Otto Schmid here, and this Hugo Stamm, they show their faces on Swiss television, SRF, as soon as it comes to Satanic rituals, as soon as it comes to ritual abuse. This is just one example. And then they deny that it exists. They even ridicule the victims, together with the SRF, also the witnesses, all those who testify to these things. "It's all a fantasy" ... and Georg Otto Schmid in particular, then says, 'Yes, they're all crazy kind of people who believe in God and the devil, in good and evil’. And then there are these few Church of Satan fans with their T-shirts, who pose no danger at all. Suddenly he's quite gracious, and he says all this in front of SRF, Swiss Radio and Televison. And yet hundreds and thousands of victims testify that they have experienced most cruel things during Satanic rituals: Torture, murder, cannibalism, the whole program. And by the way, a survivor of ritual violence testified in one of my films ... ah yes, I don't have the film now – but she says that the SRF president at the time was a high-ranking perpetrator from the cult. So, what I'm trying to say is, just watch the movie. In my film, these witnesses simply have their say, also from the music industry, from the film business, from the banking sector, from all areas. And everyone says the same thing, that these perpetrators somehow gain power, that they cover up for each other and blackmail each other with these atrocities. Yes, that's the conclusion of my research. [Interviewer Mira:] You also have PDFs that one can read through. That's really very ... well it's the wrong term for this topic... but I'd say, it's very charming that you did that, because if you can't see it anymore, you can at least read it, and I really want to encourage everyone to do that. Because it is simply a parallel world that exists and which basically coincides with our world in the sense that it is the powerful, the rich and the powerful, who pull the strings in our world and at the same time commit the most serious, cruel crimes every day. Then I have another question, because this is something that we also encounter again and again. Of course, this is also a protective mechanism that probably everyone has, this belief that we have to occupy ourselves with beautiful things, visualize something beautiful, so that life is good and is good to us. And if we focus on the dark, then we draw it into our lives. What do you say about that? [Lois Sasek:] Yes, I know it. So I say, of course we can and should deal with things full of light, devote ourselves to it, live the new world. That's what my parents always did with us as a family. We experienced peace, love and unity, but we also witnessed of it by singing together – (we) children, (we) sang against war and against division, against the destruction of families and so on. But as I said, we then suddenly found ourselves being attacked and assaulted. So as soon as you take care of this good and do the good, so that everyone is well, then suddenly these evil forces come into play, or these people, whatever. And that's where you're confronted with it. My father rehabilitated drug addicts and mentally ill people and helped a lot of people. But the more people he helped, the more he was attacked by the media and this system. And that's what made us start bothering about what evil is going on here. They are preventing you from only dealing with the good and only turning to the good and only creating the New World. Because that's what we wanted from the start. We didn't want to deal with evil. But they destroy it in full view of the public. So you can't just focus on the nice things. That's my conclusion. You are under attack, and these forces, these people, they want to somehow wipe out these good influences. And that's why you are being attacked in every way. And at this point I would like to play a short excerpt from “Blood Cult II”. And then I can use it to quickly illustrate something else. Roger Morneau was recruited by Satan worshippers and gained insight into the structure of the sect, from which he later escaped under fierce attacks, persecution and death threats by converting to Jesus-Christ. He also witnessed satanic sacrifices on Halloween, October 31, among other occasions. [Video excerpt from an interview with Roger Morneau:] “Well, it was a big surprise for me, as I’d kind of made up my mind that they would be looking for rough looking characters. But as we entered the place, I was amazed to see that they were all very well dressed, well-mannered and that a lot of the people, as we were being introduced to people, were professionals: doctors, attorney, a lot of business people. They had three major policies that were going to be followed: First, they were to see to it that humans would be made to believe that Satan and his angels do not really exist. Lucifer says: We have to make sure that people, humans get to believe that Satan and his angels do not really exist.” [Lois Sasek:] Another strategy of the sect has been to destroy the Bible without burning it. Thus, it was decided that Charles Darwin, who was a high-level member of the satanic cult, would come up with the theory of evolution, so that belief in the Bible would dissolve by itself. Darwin enjoyed the highest honor in the cult of Lucifer, according to Roger Morneau. In my view, Roger Morneau has uncovered something very important. It is not desirable for people to believe that Satan exists. Because then he can express himself freely and has no rivals in the form of people who then fight his evil works. And then you're not supposed to believe in the Bible either. But it is a very big topic in the Bible that God described these child sacrifices as the greatest abomination. And that's why Israel had to come on the scene back then, to put an end to these child sacrifices of Baal and Moloch. But then they started doing it themselves. A huge disaster. But I recommend my father's brochure on this – it's “Yahweh – Creator God or Devil?”. It explains what the Bible says about it, because the topc of child torture and sacrifice has been around for thousands of years. But according to Roger Morneau, a great deal has been invested in ensuring that these foundations disappear from humanity. And now it comes in handy that my father is a Bible teacher and knows the original texts of these scriptures. And there it is clearly stated from the outset that we as humans have the task of defeating Satan. Or to defeat evil. We are set to defend and rule paradise. Over these, the original text says "fluttered of the heavens", i.e. over these evil entities. And this is already the case in the first chapter of the Bible, where Satan, the serpent, comes into play. And it is precisely this Satan that needs to be conquered. In a very practical way. And then you have to take care of it. By the way, my dad just explained it so well again. My sister just got married, last December, he held a wedding ceremony. And you can also take a look at that. And as he says again and again, that everything is about...God also tells Satan directly to his face: I will crush your head with the seed of man of flesh and blood. So that's the program, at least that's what it says in the Bible. We are set to destroy this evil. We are determined to destroy this evil. And that's it. And if we think we could only turn to what is good and that we shouldn't worry about evil at all, then we are playing right into the hands of these Satanic powers. Because it really takes us to defeat evil. And if we look away, that's a great move by these gentlemen: 'Just deal with the good stuff.' And then they'll have us off their backs. I simply say, in the words of my father: it's in our hands. We have the power and we must recognize ourselves, recognize the divine within us. Well yes, all these ideologies that say that evil is needed and should be in balance with good, yin-yang and ... that just doesn't work in practice. So from my point of view, if you have a bad guy in the family and he goes on the rampage and steals and beats everything up, there's no peace in the family. The others cannot say, well, we are now turning to things full of light. If we turn to evil, we bring it into our lives - it is already in our lives. So for me, there is no harmony with evil. The bad guys will always oppress the good guys. They will always dominate them. And even if there are only a few evil ones compared to the good ones, they will murder and subjugate them because they are evil. And that is why I say that this evil must be controlled and defeated by us. And the Bible is full of these promises that it will happen if we simply put this mission into practice. It is our destiny, no matter how weak we feel about it. We are destined to do so. And I say, that's why these people are so desperate to lure us away from this destiny. And then the Christians are told: Well, Jesus will come from heaven and then he will do it all for us. It's a one-man show. But my father teaches from the Bible that it is not true either, because he translates the Bible literally from the original text. I'd like to give you a little taste of it now. There are hundreds of possibilities to do so. But Jude 14 and 15, for example, says: Here, the Lord has returned in his inaugurated myriads, you could say, in innumerable multitudes of warriors for righteousness. The Lord has come again in his holy and consecrated myriads to bring about a separation in all and everything down to the bottom and to convict every soul with evidence from investigations. All of their ruthlessly hurtful deeds, with which they have wickedly offended God, he will also take a look at those. So in other words, it's always about God cleaning up in us down here, overcoming Satan and his sect in us. Whether you call it Satan, anyone can say what they like, call it evil or evil forces. But it just doesn't work without us. And that's exactly what I experienced, because I begged God: please do something for these children, finally, please, please, please do something for these children in this world... And then it was as if he said to me, well, have you already done everything in your power for these children? Have you tried? Well, it was clear to me that I was in demand and then I came up with the idea of simply putting everyone in a row. And as I said, I didn't have much time for it, nor did I feel suitable for it. For example, I can't see blood, or even just hearing about a birth complication makes me feel sick and makes me go unconscious. But anyway, I of all people ... ok, now I'm supposed to listen to all these cruel stories, okay, but I'm shouting for these children now, yes me, that's what it looks like, I'll shout it out. And that is the principle, it needs us, and it also needs you, each and every one of you. We simply have to look and feel responsible and tackle evil. And I say we'll be fine if we do so because that's our destiny. And then we feel really good despite the terrible things we hear and read. Despite of this you experience joy and great strength. Sometimes I felt like I was floating in bed, but only because I had tackled it, even though it was so awful. But I simply say that if I come along with light, the darkness must give way. And when I come up with the good, it's always stronger than evil and that's simply the great thing. And if we allow evil to have it's way, just to have its way, then it grows more and more, as we see with all the wars going on etc. That's why I say: we've been destined to, we need to tackle the evil, uncover and defeat it, more and more, otherwise it will defeat us. It's as simple as that. [Interviewer Mira:] I would like to add a very specific question. You've basically already touched it, but still really for the viewers who are listening, who are watching. What suggestions, ideas or tips do you have? What can each individual do? What can we do as humanity? You have already said it, we are destined, we may face this task and this challenge. But what can each individual do? Anyone who watches and says, well, but I'm here in my apartment with my two children, just a tiny light. [Lois Sasek:] Yes, it remains the same, take responsibility, it's my world, it's your world, it's my problem, it's your problem when people suffer. We can't just enjoy life for ourselves when others are suffering so much. That's not possible, because we have a joint atmosphere together with all people, because we are connected to each other. And my father taught this decades ago that we have a common psyche. We can't simply have a good life for ourselves. After all, we are connected to these hardships in the world. But if we stand up, if we stop those doing evil together, then the devil's reign will be over with. And if we shed light on it, expose the darkness, then it cannot remain. So I say, you can get involved, you can network. Not everyone has to be able to make films, not everyone has to be able to do research, but you can just cook for someone who is doing something that is important, or help someone so that this person can do what needs to be done, you can get involved with people in the area who are committed. You can always help somehow, with something. And another thing you can do, they are trying to distract us in a very targeted way. The whole entertainment industry, the media, cell phones, you only see everyone on their cell phones, we're being lulled to sleep. All this, that we would just not look and see what's happening. That we're just hanging out on social media somehow. And that is precisely the intention, that you no longer have the time or capacity any longer to deal with it. I really want to say we have to shake ourselves free. We have to shake ourselves free of this kind of programming that is going on. Because this fight for life takes place everywhere, on a large and small scale. And we still have to work hard for this system to finance it, with levies and taxes and everything. You almost won't escape this hamster wheel, so do keep an eye on the powerful. But I just want to say that if we take responsibility and everyone puts in the little bit they can, then we can achieve the unimaginable. It's like the little bee principle, where everyone simply contributes their own little pollen and then the world is supplied with honey. And the closest core of those who work with us, this is the OCG, the Organic Christ Generation, we have realized that this battle against evil is raging on a small scale, in our own hearts as well as on the big world's stage. The evil is not just somewhere out there, it's everywhere. And we, at least, have realized that overcoming this evil, hatred, division, envy, greed, violence and so on, is not something we can simply achieve on our own. We need God for this, God in us. That is our experience. And that is the reason why we consciously place ourselves under the guidance of God, under his rule. Because he is the head, and if we, with our own head we might want to pull in the wrong direction, but if we make ourselves available to him, then he manages it in this divine way that no human being could manage, then he puts everyone exactly where one is needed and he will also bring it down. And then, as a higher being within us, he will settle accounts with these powers, which none of us could do alone. But just like the limbs of a body, we experience this as the limbs of a body, if we are controlled by this one head, as the body of God, then we can conquer evil, starting on a small scale, and then even on a large scale, worldwide. And I can only say that we experience this daily. And that is why we can also count on God's power to settle accounts with these forces of evil, that we can take on these forces and that we will also defeat them, from the small to the very large. So that's my very personal statement on this question. [Interviewer Mira:] It is also a wonderful experience to being able to make yourself available to serve that God would work through us. There is the ego. And that's what you can feel so much in your work, because the ego no longer plays a role. And whether I'm sitting there as Lois with Kla.TV or the wonderful lady in the background fixing your hair, it is all one then. And it's really so touching to see that you have this strength and one also feels you are without that fear, there is this fearlessness, that makes you able to look at it. And what you said earlier, that serenity, inner peace and calmness come from within oneself. We don't need to find it anywhere else, it's all within us. I'm really very grateful that you're sharing all this with us. I really am. [Lois Sasek:] Yes, thank you. [Interviewer Mira:] Yes, I also wish the viewers that a bit of strength, a bit of confidence would be transferred from you, from you in this case. You embody a huge, huge network. And you can feel this network working through you. Now I have one more question, to stay with confidence... You once wrote about a dream, which was basically a vision. You called it Babylon will fall. And that really is a very good symbolic image for everything you have just described. Can you perhaps give us a little insight into the message you wrote? [Lois Sasek:] Sure, with pleasure. It happened just after I had produced such a program and aired it. It was a confrontation with SRF, and I was also a bit scared, but I just stood up against this attack from SRF and uploaded my program again about all these terrible things. I fell asleep praying and afterwards I had a dream. There was a huge steel structure, a gigantic building, like a tower, right? And then I flew in my dream, at a fast pace from the bottom to the top of the tower. And the tower was so high that the woods and hills below seemed so small. So nobody could even see from the ground what was up there at the top of the tower. And the tower was built really solidly, with extremely thick steel girders, similar to the Eiffel Tower, only much higher. And when I reached the top of this huge structure, I could see every detail. And there were three-ply pieces that were knotted together at the ends, on all four sides of the tower. And inside they were knotted diagonally three more times. And it looked like a huge, very well-structured, knotted connection or felt. And now there were letters on these ropes, just like when little girls wear names and letters on their bracelets. And then I could read abbreviations, vertically and horizontally, in both directions - like with the Scrabble game. There it said Babylon, WEF (= World Economic Forum), WHO. I could see every acronym, EU, UN, NATO, CFR (= Council on Foreign Relations), all these acronyms were in midst this connection or felt. Actually also this abbreviation of this world domination sect, which I know very well from Kla.TV. And then in the dream I was so curious as to whether this vision was real, whether it was a normal dream or whether I could also touch this tower. And then, in my dream, I flew up to this tower and was actually able to grab a crossbar. Wow! And then I just had the spontaneous impulse to try and knock this tower over. So then I flew forwards with the crossbar in my hands, further and further. I was totally surprised. It worked like butter. There was no resistance. I flew forward and the whole huge tower falls so overwhelmingly ... such a gigantic monster, slowly crashing to the ground with such force and then the tower bounced down into these woods and hills with such a great roar. A huge cloud of dust formed. So the tower, it really just dissolved into a brown dust that was carried away by the wind. There was nothing left of it. Nothing left of this gigantic building. And then there was such a loud roar of joy over the earth, the people, these little people all jumped, danced, their hands flew up in the air. And that was such an amazing experience. And that is such an image for me. I could just thank God for this wonderful dream. It was actually more of a vision. As I said, I could touch everything and see exactly what was going on. And for me, that's this image of how this huge monster can collapse if we just do it. When we simply feel responsible. Just like, oh, maybe I can touch it? Let's try... And that's what we're doing with Kla.TV. We're going right to the top. That's also important. I don't think you could shake it at the bottom. You have to go up. You have to see where these entanglements are, these connections of this - I call it world domination sect. And that's where we show how they are all connected. And then it suddenly becomes very easy. You suddenly realize it's not that difficult. It suddenly goes like butter to make this mighty Babylon fall. Babylon is an image for this reign of terror of evil, I say. And that is also our mission. Dad always gets to the heart of the matter in his speeches. That's what it says in the Bible. Everywhere: Babylon falls. We are the ones who must uncover and defeat these crimes and the criminals behind them. And we are the saviors we have always been waiting for. And this also includes looking at these connections, these entanglements, examining it, confronting yourself with the need and then simply touching it, flying forward and watching this giant monster fall. And I'm really looking forward to that. I think these are the beginnings of how it will fall. And I'm really looking forward to working with you, with all these truth movements around the world, to achieve that, as you said, every organ is important and there's no judgment about who does what. That's the best thing about our movement. This respect, mutual appreciation for each individual, what he gives, be it a small part or large. There is no big and small, it needs everyone. As with the internal and external organs. What use is it if my inner organ fails? Then I won't feel well either. And I want to say: Together we can do it. I hope that's what you desired as a final word from me. [Interviewer Mira:] Lois, thank you very, very, very much, indeed. So I am very grateful. I am very impressed. And it really is this power - we see it in you like a symbol for your entire network indeed... This courage, this strength, this fearlessness and also this inner steadfastness to look at such atrocities. I would like to convey this to the audience through my words, so to speak. And I would like to thank you, thank you all, of course. Please pass this on to everyone. Thank you for your work, for everything you do, for your work and being. [Lois Sasek:] Yes, I will. [Interviewer Mira:] I would like to finish this interview together with you by letting your sisters have their say too. Because really ... I can only say, please, please look, listen. Give the children, give the abused children a voice. Spread the word in your vicinity and really be a voice for those affected. And on that note, I would like to end here with the song of your sisters: The cry for those affected. Thank you very much for your time and for the interview. [Lois Sasek:] Thank you so much. Song "CRY OUT!" by Ruth Elpida Forell-Sasek and Anna-Sophia Bühler-Sasek Before you quickly Run away and hide Because you are terrified Please lend me your ear And a tiny milligram of heart Beneath this earth’s sky Where you as well are building your life Children are daily murdered And ritually abused Just put yourself in their shoes Nobody there to free you What would you wish for most? Somebody crying out for you! CRY OUT! for all those affected Let the children go free Who hope to be saved. Listen now, the time has come You will no longer be alone Your desperation comes over the one who commits this abominable abuse. Our word is like fire to them Therefore we cry out: Sick monsters you are Your wicked game is OVER! CRY OUT! for all those affected Let the people go free Who hope to be saved. Even if you don’t wish to see Don’t turn a blind eye Because it’s our job Light only comes through us! Even if you don’t wish to hear Don’t cover your ears Because it’s our job Light only comes through us! CRY OUT! for all those affected Let the people go free Who hope to be saved. CRY OUT!

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